Considering a 2016-2017 NX
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Any issues or TSBs that a prospective buyer should be aware of/ look for when searching for an NX?
Also, any issues with the turbo (being Toyota's first?), or will time only tell?
Thanks in advance.
Also, any issues with the turbo (being Toyota's first?), or will time only tell?
Thanks in advance.
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In case you have not read this article, just for some info on the turbo 2.0
https://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/07/...00t-deep-dive/
Mine is a 2016 F Sport model w/ about 50K km off lease when recently bought. I don't know how the first owner drove it, but by chance I found his name and able to exchange PM via his FB (after the sale). He expressed would have bought the NX, it was a well-built SUV (in Japan). A couple notes:
- I drive Normal mode, which I understand can be either ECO or Turbo when needed, when I keep depressing the gas pedal (otherwise someone pls correct me);
- I always use premium 91 octane, as specified in the Owner's Manual, even though I don't usually drive in Turbo mode.
I think this will alleviate any concern for overheating the turbo engine by driving in Normal mode and using the recommended octane designed for operating. I find the response together with the mileage meet my "need for speed" when cruising and changing lanes. I tried Turbo a couple times, quite peppy if you need for "road rage"
, which I don't really have such need. Another deterrence is, not sure yet if true, the instant "average" mileage display changed from 10.6L/100km into 12.2L/100km on the digital guage. Not sure because my recent round trip Hwy between cities shows 9.6L/100km "average" on the digital guage, and my calculation based on the trip meter and the gas fill-up is 8.5L/100km.
Mine is a Certified Pre-Owned, and when checked with the Canadian Black Book for value, based on mileage and options (F Sport Series 2), it was a good deal (price). My point: there is a concern CPO would increase the cost for the added value, I guess I was lucky![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Good luck with your search!
https://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/07/...00t-deep-dive/
Mine is a 2016 F Sport model w/ about 50K km off lease when recently bought. I don't know how the first owner drove it, but by chance I found his name and able to exchange PM via his FB (after the sale). He expressed would have bought the NX, it was a well-built SUV (in Japan). A couple notes:
- I drive Normal mode, which I understand can be either ECO or Turbo when needed, when I keep depressing the gas pedal (otherwise someone pls correct me);
- I always use premium 91 octane, as specified in the Owner's Manual, even though I don't usually drive in Turbo mode.
I think this will alleviate any concern for overheating the turbo engine by driving in Normal mode and using the recommended octane designed for operating. I find the response together with the mileage meet my "need for speed" when cruising and changing lanes. I tried Turbo a couple times, quite peppy if you need for "road rage"
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Mine is a Certified Pre-Owned, and when checked with the Canadian Black Book for value, based on mileage and options (F Sport Series 2), it was a good deal (price). My point: there is a concern CPO would increase the cost for the added value, I guess I was lucky
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Good luck with your search!
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The Japanese were certainly later to the turbo game, usually turbines will not have issue for the first 10 years or so, I guess only time will tell with this Lexus turbo engine.
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Here's the ad from Lexus on AWD, as I just found online when you asked:
https://www.lexus.ca/lexus/en/automobiles/awd
Last edited by 16fsport2; 07-21-19 at 05:00 AM.
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You should be more concerned with direct injection engine, not with turbo. Turbo you cool down before shutting down engine (yes, read user guide!) and do regular oil changes with quality oil. Carbon build up on intake valves - not so easy. You got to race the engine ever so often to prevent it. Have fun.
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No issue at all. 2018 F-Sport in the Montreal area here, one winter experience with it : drove in snow, wet snow, freezing rain, etc with high confidence. Must say as it is mandatory here in winter time in Quebec, I’m driving it with 4 winter tires. Found out that sometimes using eco mode, helps prevent spinning the wheels on streets corners and on icy roads, while other times using sport/sport + mode it will be easier to move it in thick snow. Also from a stand still position, you can engage (lock) the AWD system, it will disengage itself above 40 km/h. In the end, really good system and I don’t feel the extra weight at all
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1. There is a reason why Premium 91 Octane is recommended, if not mandated: to eliminate any chances for gasoline with ethanol mix, however low, which in turn can contribute to carbon buildup due to DI.
2. DI issues are noted with 06, 07 IS250, not "observed" or "recognized" in many other engines, Toyota or not (some KIA, Audi engines are also affected). Toyota/Lexus engineers are aware of this and changed the design to fix the potential problem with 2 "solutions": (1) no ethanol gas and Premium 91 Octane is a must; and (ii) use of multi-port injection (PI), in addition to DI, to clean the buildup, as in the case of NX Turbo engine.
https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/do...0722031537%3As
https://www.wheels.ca/news/is-direct...y-a-good-idea/
This article confirms how Toyota/Lexus addresses this potential carbon deposit with DI by combining both port injection (PI) and DI during normal driving:
"The Combination
The ultimate strategy is combining both PI and DI benefits, using each to diminish the other’s negatives. Toyota, for example, fires both injectors during low to medium load and rpm conditions—in other words, during normal driving. This raises the density of the incoming charge without boosting and flushes carbon deposits off the intake valves. During high load and rpm circumstances, when maximum combustion chamber cooling is needed because detonation is more likely, DI handles all the fuel delivery."
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...ect-injection/
Last edited by 16fsport2; 07-22-19 at 10:59 AM. Reason: Revised when read Car &Driver's article
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FYI in the USA almost all of the premium gasoline contains 10% ethanol. Here where I live in Florida ethanol free is available in a handful of stations , most of which is 89 octane. When I lived in the nyc metro area it was almost impossible to get unless it was in a 5 gallon can. https://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=FL
Last edited by brook41; 07-26-19 at 04:40 PM.
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youtube videos show it to be real easy when you pull out a spark plug and look inside with a scope...vid said its 40bux for a cheap scope from amazon...my 17nxt fsport will need spark plug change soon, so will probably buy a scope and take a look.
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