Million Dollar Question (maybe $2.00)
06-15-23, 11:15 AM
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2023 450H+. I have always hand washed all my new cars the first year or at least uses touchless car wash in the winter. But this one only 7 months new have always been washed using non-touchless car wash. This alone tell you how much I love this car. If I am to replace this car right now I would be looking for a different brand altogether. I cannot love this car because of the software bugs of the multi-media system. Very often I will lose my Android Auto connection. One time I missed my highway exit because Android Auto was lost. It may also have to do with my Lexus dealership. It just feel low end compares to the Mercedes and Audi dealerships I go to for my other cars.
Last edited by Sounds; 06-15-23 at 02:14 PM.
06-15-23, 11:38 AM
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So to hear. Reliability, no aggravation and quality dealer service is everything. What is Android connection? The Lexus system or your phone. This is my first Lexus. Like being in school. It gets an A until it proves differently. Good luck and hopefully you’re back to hand washing soon.
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06-15-23, 12:49 PM
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I don't have the functionality issue you mention in mine. AA works great, we still only have 1 FOB though, so no issues with the Wife's profile as there isn't one. Not using the credit card key either, find it too thick to drag around. We are fine with 1 fob. Digital key works, but don't rely on it. Use it when moving the car in the driveway.
I hear you with the theft thing, my RX was stolen last December. However, no need for faraday cages for these new fobs. They automatically shut off after 30 seconds of no motion. So place it on your counter and 30 seconds later they stop communicating with the car. That's 1 step better.
I had a high end immobilizer installed for a few weeks. At first it worked well, but the valet mode didn't. I ended up having it removed because when I left the car in for service, I don't know what would happen when I went to restart it. Twice the immobilizer stopped working after a service visit. Had to get the it re-initialized, which required a 45 minute drive each way to the installer and a meting with the manufacturers rep. Then the Wife factor; what happens if the thing fails when she's away from home? So we decided as good as it appears, it's not reliable.
The shop that put it in didn't try to sell me another brand. His comment, until the aftermarket understands these cars better, he won't install anything in them because they don't work, yet. He doesn't want to waste his time doing the work twice, as he did with me and that other immobilizer. There are so many more computers connected to the CAN bus that it's going to take time for the aftermarket manufacturers to figure it out. He does sell Viper, but again, he wouldn't touch my NX.
So I have a club like steering wheel bar with a combination lock. Use that in what I consider high risk areas. I also have insurance coverage that pays full value for 5 years. Not that I want to go through it again, but if it's stolen, we'll get our money back. And then we'll buy something else, because manufacturers, all of them including Toyota/Lexus, could do so much more to prevent theft but just don't seem to want to.
I hear you with the theft thing, my RX was stolen last December. However, no need for faraday cages for these new fobs. They automatically shut off after 30 seconds of no motion. So place it on your counter and 30 seconds later they stop communicating with the car. That's 1 step better.
I had a high end immobilizer installed for a few weeks. At first it worked well, but the valet mode didn't. I ended up having it removed because when I left the car in for service, I don't know what would happen when I went to restart it. Twice the immobilizer stopped working after a service visit. Had to get the it re-initialized, which required a 45 minute drive each way to the installer and a meting with the manufacturers rep. Then the Wife factor; what happens if the thing fails when she's away from home? So we decided as good as it appears, it's not reliable.
The shop that put it in didn't try to sell me another brand. His comment, until the aftermarket understands these cars better, he won't install anything in them because they don't work, yet. He doesn't want to waste his time doing the work twice, as he did with me and that other immobilizer. There are so many more computers connected to the CAN bus that it's going to take time for the aftermarket manufacturers to figure it out. He does sell Viper, but again, he wouldn't touch my NX.
So I have a club like steering wheel bar with a combination lock. Use that in what I consider high risk areas. I also have insurance coverage that pays full value for 5 years. Not that I want to go through it again, but if it's stolen, we'll get our money back. And then we'll buy something else, because manufacturers, all of them including Toyota/Lexus, could do so much more to prevent theft but just don't seem to want to.
06-15-23, 02:09 PM
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2022 350h Luxury -- Eminent-White Pearl, black leather, Advanced Park, digital mirror, triple-beam headlights with cornering lamps, Mark Levinson, panoramic monitor, LCA, front cross traffic alert, digital key / wireless charger, heated steering week, puddle lamps, all-weather floor and cargo mats.
I rarely use the digital mirror. Love the headlights and cornering lamps. The Mark Levinson upgrade is a must for me. The panoramic monitor and all the safety features are great. Wireless charger has been unreliable, even after an updated replacement (see all the threads about this). The heated steering wheel is wonderful. I'm not sure the puddle lamps matter to me from a functional standpoint. Having "Lexus" shining on the ground seems more of a vanity play than anything else. I love the 14" screen, though I rarely use the Lexus interface. I mostly run Apple CarPlay. The touch controls for heat/AC, seat heating and ventilation, etc., seem to work well.
In reference to your consideration of the Mercedes, I traded in a 2017 Audi A6 Prestige with the sports package. It had all the bells and whistles. Best vehicle I've ever owned from a driving perspective. It also cost an arm and a leg to maintain. I had several $1,500+ repair bills, in addition to the expensive regular maintenance. I forecast the cost of the next five years of ownership vs. trading it in for a new NX hybrid. It was a wash. Reliability, the lower cost of repairs, and the difference in mpg sealed the deal for me. I miss driving the Audi, but I smile every time I take my NX in for service or pull up to the gas pump.
I rarely use the digital mirror. Love the headlights and cornering lamps. The Mark Levinson upgrade is a must for me. The panoramic monitor and all the safety features are great. Wireless charger has been unreliable, even after an updated replacement (see all the threads about this). The heated steering wheel is wonderful. I'm not sure the puddle lamps matter to me from a functional standpoint. Having "Lexus" shining on the ground seems more of a vanity play than anything else. I love the 14" screen, though I rarely use the Lexus interface. I mostly run Apple CarPlay. The touch controls for heat/AC, seat heating and ventilation, etc., seem to work well.
In reference to your consideration of the Mercedes, I traded in a 2017 Audi A6 Prestige with the sports package. It had all the bells and whistles. Best vehicle I've ever owned from a driving perspective. It also cost an arm and a leg to maintain. I had several $1,500+ repair bills, in addition to the expensive regular maintenance. I forecast the cost of the next five years of ownership vs. trading it in for a new NX hybrid. It was a wash. Reliability, the lower cost of repairs, and the difference in mpg sealed the deal for me. I miss driving the Audi, but I smile every time I take my NX in for service or pull up to the gas pump.
06-15-23, 02:21 PM
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2022 350h Luxury -- Eminent-White Pearl, black leather, Advanced Park, digital mirror, triple-beam headlights with cornering lamps, Mark Levinson, panoramic monitor, LCA, front cross traffic alert, digital key / wireless charger, heated steering week, puddle lamps, all-weather floor and cargo mats.
I rarely use the digital mirror. Love the headlights and cornering lamps. The Mark Levinson upgrade is a must for me. The panoramic monitor and all the safety features are great. Wireless charger has been unreliable, even after an updated replacement (see all the threads about this). The heated steering wheel is wonderful. I'm not sure the puddle lamps matter to me from a functional standpoint. Having "Lexus" shining on the ground seems more of a vanity play than anything else. I love the 14" screen, though I rarely use the Lexus interface. I mostly run Apple CarPlay. The touch controls for heat/AC, seat heating and ventilation, etc., seem to work well.
In reference to your consideration of the Mercedes, I traded in a 2017 Audi A6 Prestige with the sports package. It had all the bells and whistles. Best vehicle I've ever owned from a driving perspective. It also cost an arm and a leg to maintain. I had several $1,500+ repair bills, in addition to the expensive regular maintenance. I forecast the cost of the next five years of ownership vs. trading it in for a new NX hybrid. It was a wash. Reliability, the lower cost of repairs, and the difference in mpg sealed the deal for me. I miss driving the Audi, but I smile every time I take my NX in for service or pull up to the gas pump.
I rarely use the digital mirror. Love the headlights and cornering lamps. The Mark Levinson upgrade is a must for me. The panoramic monitor and all the safety features are great. Wireless charger has been unreliable, even after an updated replacement (see all the threads about this). The heated steering wheel is wonderful. I'm not sure the puddle lamps matter to me from a functional standpoint. Having "Lexus" shining on the ground seems more of a vanity play than anything else. I love the 14" screen, though I rarely use the Lexus interface. I mostly run Apple CarPlay. The touch controls for heat/AC, seat heating and ventilation, etc., seem to work well.
In reference to your consideration of the Mercedes, I traded in a 2017 Audi A6 Prestige with the sports package. It had all the bells and whistles. Best vehicle I've ever owned from a driving perspective. It also cost an arm and a leg to maintain. I had several $1,500+ repair bills, in addition to the expensive regular maintenance. I forecast the cost of the next five years of ownership vs. trading it in for a new NX hybrid. It was a wash. Reliability, the lower cost of repairs, and the difference in mpg sealed the deal for me. I miss driving the Audi, but I smile every time I take my NX in for service or pull up to the gas pump.
06-15-23, 06:34 PM
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I hear you with the theft thing, my RX was stolen last December. However, no need for faraday cages for these new fobs. They automatically shut off after 30 seconds of no motion. So place it on your counter and 30 seconds later they stop communicating with the car. That's 1 step better.
UPDATE: I re-tested it again, and I don't think our key fobs stop communicating with the car after 30 seconds. It look like it is the distance from the car that makes it look like the key fob has stopped communicating with the car. But if I leave the key fob close to the car door, even a minute of not moving the key fob the car door still can be open.
Last edited by GoLeafsGo; 06-17-23 at 05:05 AM.
06-15-23, 07:18 PM
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I currently have the 2023 NX 350 Luxury Cloudburst and the saddle interior. Love the color and the interior. I previously had a 2018 Volvo in denim Blue. It was time to change the exterior color and makes.
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