Subwoofer
07-22-24, 05:46 PM
#257
[QUOTE=tdlnfm;11760022]Is not my ideal is so polish audio shop ideal I'm hooking up with audiocontrol acm-1.300 will update if everything completed. Awaiting for the amplifier to arrive it will take awhile as I'm living outside the states shipping will take awhile.
07-22-24, 07:59 PM
#258
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@AtomicLexus Do you and other forum members ever participate in forums.audioholics.com; It is mainly home theater audio, but a lot also applies to care audio.
I have participated in several audio forums, but there are too many users that drink the cool-aid that more money spent means better quality. This pissing contest is a waste of time for everyone. It's like trying to change someone's political or religious beliefs. The CES show used to have (maybe still does but have not been for a few years), many floors of the Palazzo with esoteric ultra high end home audio ($100,000 and up). Some sounded good, others fair. The one thing in common is that all of these sellers/creators believed class D (or even AB) amps and digital signal processors audibly compromise the music, and only a tube amp with a class A power supply (always running full amperage) is the only way to go. Interestingly, few had any real bass to speak of. All the rock concerts I have experienced over the decades have a downward sloping frequency curve (more bass than treble) and many of these audiophile systems tend to have a goal of flat with a gradual downward slope for the low end run off that you get with a sealed encloser. Many use smaller matched drivers to avoid crossovers. This design (remember the Bose 901) fails especially at low bass and high treble. Perhaps classical music or jazz with lots of horns and strings sound good, but in reality the hardest audio range to reproduce clearly are vocals. In the audiophile demos, that was the one thing often absent. The other is the importance of room acoustics. It is far different to sit in front of a speaker on axis than to sit on the sofa with a multitude of sound cancelling/reinforcing nodes. A car is even tougher.
As for home theater, I have always resented Dolby, from the early tape noise reduction that was no more than a treble boost at recording and attenuate it on playback while firms like DBX had compression/expansion that actually worked with much higher signal to noise... but not the financial winner. Dolby continues to offer poorly engineered HT designs for the purpose of selling new equipment. Like the old Win-(in)tel days; more demanding OS requires faster processors. Even now Dolby doesn't provide a logical HT system, they just keep adding unnecessary speakers. The industry priority is sales and not audio. But I digress.
Besides, helping car owners beat the rigged system from auto makers goal of high priced upgrades is fun.
Last edited by AtomicLexus; 07-22-24 at 08:03 PM.
07-22-24, 10:16 PM
#259
[QUOTE=fierymonkey;11760093]
Good choice! I think you'll be satisfied with this system in the long run.
I've installed a variety brand and size of subs (Audison, Rockford, DLS, JBL, Kenwood, Bumper) in my cars before, but the JL W3 series play in a different league.
I've installed a variety brand and size of subs (Audison, Rockford, DLS, JBL, Kenwood, Bumper) in my cars before, but the JL W3 series play in a different league.
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07-23-24, 07:28 AM
#260
Thanks for the thumbs up.
I have participated in several audio forums, but there are too many users that drink the cool-aid that more money spent means better quality. This pissing contest is a waste of time for everyone. It's like trying to change someone's political or religious beliefs. The CES show used to have (maybe still does but have not been for a few years), many floors of the Palazzo with esoteric ultra high end home audio ($100,000 and up). Some sounded good, others fair. The one thing in common is that all of these sellers/creators believed class D (or even AB) amps and digital signal processors audibly compromise the music, and only a tube amp with a class A power supply (always running full amperage) is the only way to go. Interestingly, few had any real bass to speak of. All the rock concerts I have experienced over the decades have a downward sloping frequency curve (more bass than treble) and many of these audiophile systems tend to have a goal of flat with a gradual downward slope for the low end run off that you get with a sealed encloser. Many use smaller matched drivers to avoid crossovers. This design (remember the Bose 901) fails especially at low bass and high treble. Perhaps classical music or jazz with lots of horns and strings sound good, but in reality the hardest audio range to reproduce clearly are vocals. In the audiophile demos, that was the one thing often absent. The other is the importance of room acoustics. It is far different to sit in front of a speaker on axis than to sit on the sofa with a multitude of sound cancelling/reinforcing nodes. A car is even tougher.
As for home theater, I have always resented Dolby, from the early tape noise reduction that was no more than a treble boost at recording and attenuate it on playback while firms like DBX had compression/expansion that actually worked with much higher signal to noise... but not the financial winner. Dolby continues to offer poorly engineered HT designs for the purpose of selling new equipment. Like the old Win-(in)tel days; more demanding OS requires faster processors. Even now Dolby doesn't provide a logical HT system, they just keep adding unnecessary speakers. The industry priority is sales and not audio. But I digress.
Besides, helping car owners beat the rigged system from auto makers goal of high priced upgrades is fun.
I have participated in several audio forums, but there are too many users that drink the cool-aid that more money spent means better quality. This pissing contest is a waste of time for everyone. It's like trying to change someone's political or religious beliefs. The CES show used to have (maybe still does but have not been for a few years), many floors of the Palazzo with esoteric ultra high end home audio ($100,000 and up). Some sounded good, others fair. The one thing in common is that all of these sellers/creators believed class D (or even AB) amps and digital signal processors audibly compromise the music, and only a tube amp with a class A power supply (always running full amperage) is the only way to go. Interestingly, few had any real bass to speak of. All the rock concerts I have experienced over the decades have a downward sloping frequency curve (more bass than treble) and many of these audiophile systems tend to have a goal of flat with a gradual downward slope for the low end run off that you get with a sealed encloser. Many use smaller matched drivers to avoid crossovers. This design (remember the Bose 901) fails especially at low bass and high treble. Perhaps classical music or jazz with lots of horns and strings sound good, but in reality the hardest audio range to reproduce clearly are vocals. In the audiophile demos, that was the one thing often absent. The other is the importance of room acoustics. It is far different to sit in front of a speaker on axis than to sit on the sofa with a multitude of sound cancelling/reinforcing nodes. A car is even tougher.
As for home theater, I have always resented Dolby, from the early tape noise reduction that was no more than a treble boost at recording and attenuate it on playback while firms like DBX had compression/expansion that actually worked with much higher signal to noise... but not the financial winner. Dolby continues to offer poorly engineered HT designs for the purpose of selling new equipment. Like the old Win-(in)tel days; more demanding OS requires faster processors. Even now Dolby doesn't provide a logical HT system, they just keep adding unnecessary speakers. The industry priority is sales and not audio. But I digress.
Besides, helping car owners beat the rigged system from auto makers goal of high priced upgrades is fun.
YMMV,
MidCow3
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07-24-24, 01:15 AM
#263
[QUOTE=tdlnfm;11760181] Mind showing your set up?
07-24-24, 09:55 AM
#265
[QUOTE=gamma742;11760888] I'm very sure it will fit.. the only problem you might face is the screw part you need to screw in an angle in order to have 2 screw fitted, if you are more comfortable with 1 screw and cable tie you can try as well as a few guys did it. I did saw a guy driving rx fitted with c2 4 inch was tempted to try, buy shipping to my location is abit long. I have to do the resistor thing for the centre speaker as it is some how louder then the side speaker
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fierymonkey (07-24-24)
07-26-24, 09:39 AM
#269
Nice RX front speaker install video
This is the 4inch I was talking about.
https://youtu.be/gzPuUeL0XGs
https://youtu.be/gzPuUeL0XGs
YMMV,
MidCow3
07-26-24, 09:54 AM
#270
Perfect install on the RX , very snug and secure using the same two 10mmm bolts. If this fits the NX then this would be an outstanding upgrade from base NX sound system, Again, the subwoofer would be a secondary consideration and augment the low subwoofer base (20-180 Hertz) and and bass sound (typically considered 60-250 hertz; misses subwoofer very low end 20-60 Hertz; the thumper feel it range)
YMMV,
MidCow3
YMMV,
MidCow3