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4 weeks into enjoying the ownership and just recently trying to figure things out. Has anyone else got this issue: on 100% charged it shows I can drive 61 km on EV and on 30% shows I can no longer drive EV only... sorry if this has been addressed before...
The 450h+ at 100% could range from 50ish to 80ish km (depending on your driving habits, weather and other factors). But when the EV range is depleted, the car has about 30% battery left for HV driving. Keep in mine that the 350h, has a 1.7 kWh battery for hybrid driving.
The 450h+ at 100% could range from 50ish to 80ish km
I got as high as 94km as of yesterday and for sure it will start dropping as soon as the temperature drops.
My recommendation is to flip to "HV" during highway cruise and "EV" for local/traffic only.
Also if the temperature is -9Celsius or lower, your engine will turn on while driving in EV mode when the heat is on.
Driving in HV on uphill/highway will generate electricity back to the traction EV battery. It is best not to let it drop to 0% to be efficient or it will become a full Hybrid until the destination is reached.
Another option is to use Auto EV/HV as you step on the accelerator, the engine will flip as needed; ie: Highway speed.
At the end of the day, when you get back home, it is best to have some EV range left and not 0km.
I got as high as 94km as of yesterday and for sure it will start dropping as soon as the temperature drops.
My recommendation is to flip to "HV" during highway cruise and "EV" for local/traffic only.
Also if the temperature is -9Celsius or lower, your engine will turn on while driving in EV mode when the heat is on.
Driving in HV on uphill/highway will generate electricity back to the traction EV battery. It is best not to let it drop to 0% to be efficient or it will become a full Hybrid until the destination is reached.
Another option is to use Auto EV/HV as you step on the accelerator, the engine will flip as needed; ie: Highway speed.
At the end of the day, when you get back home, it is best to have some EV range left and not 0km.
My 2cents.
Great that you got 94km on the guess-o-meter. I think the question was why it was 30% with 0km left. Everybody has their own way of managing efficiency and I think it depends on how far you are planning to drive. If I only need to go 40-50km on a round trip, I wouldn't turn on the engine and totally use EV mode throughout. It all depends on the current situation and what to do at that point.
@lsft Correct. Everyone is different but at the end of the day it is better to leave some EV range and not 0kms at the final destination. That is why I choose downhill and when returning choose no uphill to avoid HV mode.
The guess-o-meter depends on how you drove the day before. If you are aggressive, the next day will give you less. But I got consistent 92-94kms for the month of October. Very consistent meter and method coming from Prius Prime and still 100% correct.
The app could be buggy. The 30% is probably the reserved portion.
Stopped by the dealership to check on winter tires and got the chance to speak with one of the specialists there and he confirmed what lsft was saying: you can't go lower than the 30% in EV mode as the systems are setup this way. When I charged it to 100% it only showed 61 km in EV only. I mostly drive in town and the rare exceptions when I need to go on the highway, I switch it to HV (as NSXT was suggesting).
@NSXT - fantastic how you managed to get 94 km out of the 70% battery available for EV only mode! This means your average kWh/100km is somewhere around 13.5! I thought my 18.4 kWh/100km is stellar...
@lsft Correct. Everyone is different but at the end of the day it is better to leave some EV range and not 0kms at the final destination. That is why I choose downhill and when returning choose no uphill to avoid HV mode.
The guess-o-meter depends on how you drove the day before. If you are aggressive, the next day will give you less. But I got consistent 92-94kms for the month of October. Very consistent meter and method coming from Prius Prime and still 100% correct.
The app could be buggy. The 30% is probably the reserved portion.
I think it also depends if you can charge at final destination. I typically would see how far I am to final destination and have HV mode and then switch to EV once the remaining EV range is enough + a buffer (based on experience). The goal is to get close to 0% when you arrive your next charging station/home.
Stopped by the dealership to check on winter tires and got the chance to speak with one of the specialists there and he confirmed what left was saying: you can't go lower than the 30% in EV mode as the systems are setup this way. When I charged it to 100% it only showed 61 km in EV only. I mostly drive in town and the rare exceptions when I need to go on the highway, I switch it to HV (as NSXT was suggesting).
@NSXT - fantastic how you managed to get 94 km out of the 70% battery available for EV only mode! This means your average kWh/100km is somewhere around 13.5! I thought my 18.4 kWh/100km is stellar...
I am coming from the Prius Prime/RAV4 Prime era and using the same efficient pattern on my NX450h+. I got it in May 2023 so it will take time for yours to adapt before you see 90+ kms on a full charge. Since Fall/Winter is coming, you will get there sometime next year.
I am achieving 13.5 kWh/100km and I have achieved 12.0 kWh/100km from Prius Prime.
There is a lot to learn for being efficient and here is one of the video for a pure hybrid but it can be applied to PHEV as well
Wow! Thank you NSXT! I will have a look and will try to adapt my driving accordingly as I really like to drive in EV only as much as possible.
I have made a deposit for a RZ (jic) which they say could be available at my dealership within 2 years or so and I am thinking more and more about actually getting it when it will be available. I hope that they will upgrade the RZ every year (as they usually do) and maybe increase the size of the battery and also improve a bit the efficiencies, though even with the 300 km you could get right now on it I wouldn't be scared away.
Wow! Thank you NSXT! I will have a look and will try to adapt my driving accordingly as I really like to drive in EV only as much as possible.
I have made a deposit for a RZ (jic) which they say could be available at my dealership within 2 years or so and I am thinking more and more about actually getting it when it will be available. I hope that they will upgrade the RZ every year (as they usually do) and maybe increase the size of the battery and also improve a bit the efficiencies, though even with the 300 km you could get right now on it I wouldn't be scared away.
Long story short.. I backed off the Toyota bZ4x because they didn't have a memory seat even at the top trim level (Subaru Solterra has that option). So I then went to put a deposit for RZ but after it was released from the autoshow, I backed off because no power trunk and the hood does not have the shocks holder in a luxury model
Then I ended up with the NX450h+ for now. I would wait until SSB (Solid State Battery) comes out to all the Toyota/Lexus Hybrid (tentative in 2-3 years) then to a full BEV. It makes no sense to carry a big dead weight around the city when our daily driving is 60-80kms. SSB is smaller/lighter and has more EV range + faster charging.
FYI: If your daily driving is 60kms (local/city) as an example, use the EV all the way. HV mode only when cruising 90km/hr + to be efficient and use that youtube video as a reference.
10-27-23, 08:22 PM
Anyone figured this out?
