NX made on same line as Rav4
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There is a high number of panoramic RXs being produced. I haven’t noticed any issues. That being said they may just delay the order from production until the roofs are in the supply chain.
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I would unequivocally say that a NX made in Japan will be superior than one made in canada.
i forgot which video I watched but there's an engineer who says there are qc differences - the Japanese just have more tighter tolerances
i forgot which video I watched but there's an engineer who says there are qc differences - the Japanese just have more tighter tolerances
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I was thinking the same thing, until I read about the recall on Japan built NX's due to welding issues.
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AMD of The Care Care Nut channel in one of his videos mentioned this. Any plant that manufacturers Lexus vehicles are held to a very high standard already and there really isn't a ton of difference to make Japanese assembled much superior to Canadian. You are getting the same high quality product. He actually brought on a Toyota/Lexus engineer (who was Japanese BTW) to corroborate his point.
ToyotaJeff said the same thing in his YouTube Channel that the standards are the same.
There's tons of people driving RXs from 10+ years in fantastic shape and those were built here in Canada... Go figure.
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I forgot the video but it was an engineer who literally went through an inspection of a Rav4 made in Canada vs a prime made in Japan.
there were qc differences for sure.
as per the weld issue, I wonder what surprises the Cambridge plant will bring up... seems it was only a handful of cars in Japan
there were qc differences for sure.
as per the weld issue, I wonder what surprises the Cambridge plant will bring up... seems it was only a handful of cars in Japan
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[QUOTE=LStoneX;11269553]And yes, those pesky spot welds. Must be some trainees from the Cambridge plant who welded them wrong🤪
Different, yes, but according to a few experts, not by much.
AMD of The Care Care Nut channel in one of his videos mentioned this. Any plant that manufacturers Lexus vehicles are held to a very high standard already and there really isn't a ton of difference to make Japanese assembled much superior to Canadian. You are getting the same high quality product.
ToyotaJeff said the same thing in his YouTube Channel and he even brought on one of Lexus engineers (who was Japanese BTW) who said the standards are the same.
There's tons of people driving RXs from 10+ years in fantastic shape and those were built here in Canada... Go figure.[/QUOTE
standards may be the same on paper, but the workmanship isn't and that's what separates Japan vs Canada. There's a reason why the LFA was made by the master takumis of Japan and not the Joe Smoe of Cambridge!
Different, yes, but according to a few experts, not by much.
AMD of The Care Care Nut channel in one of his videos mentioned this. Any plant that manufacturers Lexus vehicles are held to a very high standard already and there really isn't a ton of difference to make Japanese assembled much superior to Canadian. You are getting the same high quality product.
ToyotaJeff said the same thing in his YouTube Channel and he even brought on one of Lexus engineers (who was Japanese BTW) who said the standards are the same.
There's tons of people driving RXs from 10+ years in fantastic shape and those were built here in Canada... Go figure.[/QUOTE
standards may be the same on paper, but the workmanship isn't and that's what separates Japan vs Canada. There's a reason why the LFA was made by the master takumis of Japan and not the Joe Smoe of Cambridge!
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Not when they are made in Japan. Different factories and assembly lines.
The honest truth if that US or Canadian workers don’t have the same level of craftsmanship on average as the Japanese workers who only exclusively work in the Lexus plants.
It doesn’t matter if the standards are the same. The car is only as good as the sum of its parts and much of that It’s dependent on human assembly.
The honest truth if that US or Canadian workers don’t have the same level of craftsmanship on average as the Japanese workers who only exclusively work in the Lexus plants.
It doesn’t matter if the standards are the same. The car is only as good as the sum of its parts and much of that It’s dependent on human assembly.
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The only plant that makes Lexus outside of Japan is Cambridge. That is a testament to the quality produced there. No, the LFA is made completely different than a mass produced vehicle. They only build a handful a year and have a dedicated team with all the time in the world to build. If you can afford that level of quality then why buy an NX or RX? Can’t compare the two.
Build quality strives to be the exact same standards from Japan or Canada. The difference is found in a new production vehicle. All first year production (Canada or Japan) will have higher defect outflow simply because it’s new to all the builders. New parts, new fits, new standards. Give production a year or two and you will get the same level of quality from both plants. Even Japan struggles on a new model (hence the recalls). When you’re buying a mass produced vehicle in its first model year you’re trading quality for having the newest car on the market. The good news is any defects will be covered under recalls for quite some time.
And yes, those pesky spot welds. Must be some trainees from the Cambridge plant who welded them wrong🤪
Different, yes, but according to a few experts, not by much.
AMD of The Care Care Nut channel in one of his videos mentioned this. Any plant that manufacturers Lexus vehicles are held to a very high standard already and there really isn't a ton of difference to make Japanese assembled much superior to Canadian. You are getting the same high quality product.
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ToyotaJeff said the same thing in his YouTube Channel and he even brought on one of Lexus engineers (who was Japanese BTW) who said the standards are the same.
There's tons of people driving RXs from 10+ years in fantastic shape and those were built here in Canada... Go figure.[/QUOTE
Standards may be the same on paper, but the workmanship isn't and that's what separates Japan vs Canada. There's a reason why the LFA was made by the master takumis of Japan and not the Joe Smoe of Cambridge!
Different, yes, but according to a few experts, not by much.
AMD of The Care Care Nut channel in one of his videos mentioned this. Any plant that manufacturers Lexus vehicles are held to a very high standard already and there really isn't a ton of difference to make Japanese assembled much superior to Canadian. You are getting the same high quality product.
YouTube
ToyotaJeff said the same thing in his YouTube Channel and he even brought on one of Lexus engineers (who was Japanese BTW) who said the standards are the same.
There's tons of people driving RXs from 10+ years in fantastic shape and those were built here in Canada... Go figure.[/QUOTE
Standards may be the same on paper, but the workmanship isn't and that's what separates Japan vs Canada. There's a reason why the LFA was made by the master takumis of Japan and not the Joe Smoe of Cambridge!
Build quality strives to be the exact same standards from Japan or Canada. The difference is found in a new production vehicle. All first year production (Canada or Japan) will have higher defect outflow simply because it’s new to all the builders. New parts, new fits, new standards. Give production a year or two and you will get the same level of quality from both plants. Even Japan struggles on a new model (hence the recalls). When you’re buying a mass produced vehicle in its first model year you’re trading quality for having the newest car on the market. The good news is any defects will be covered under recalls for quite some time.
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Interesting tidbit, thanks for that. Can you elaborate on the differences? Specifically, is the V6 still available or are they powered only by a 4 cylinder engine.
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The only plant that makes Lexus outside of Japan is Cambridge. That is a testament to the quality produced there. No, the LFA is made completely different than a mass produced vehicle. They only build a handful a year and have a dedicated team with all the time in the world to build. If you can afford that level of quality then why buy an NX or RX? Can’t compare the two.
Build quality strives to be the exact same standards from Japan or Canada. The difference is found in a new production vehicle. All first year production (Canada or Japan) will have higher defect outflow simply because it’s new to all the builders. New parts, new fits, new standards. Give production a year or two and you will get the same level of quality from both plants. Even Japan struggles on a new model (hence the recalls). When you’re buying a mass produced vehicle in its first model year you’re trading quality for having the newest car on the market. The good news is any defects will be covered under recalls for quite some time.
Not sure if your talking about just the NX or all Lexus’s but the Lexus ES line is made in Georgetown KY as well as Japan. I work there.
The only plant that makes Lexus outside of Japan is Cambridge. That is a testament to the quality produced there. No, the LFA is made completely different than a mass produced vehicle. They only build a handful a year and have a dedicated team with all the time in the world to build. If you can afford that level of quality then why buy an NX or RX? Can’t compare the two.
Build quality strives to be the exact same standards from Japan or Canada. The difference is found in a new production vehicle. All first year production (Canada or Japan) will have higher defect outflow simply because it’s new to all the builders. New parts, new fits, new standards. Give production a year or two and you will get the same level of quality from both plants. Even Japan struggles on a new model (hence the recalls). When you’re buying a mass produced vehicle in its first model year you’re trading quality for having the newest car on the market. The good news is any defects will be covered under recalls for quite some time.
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Not when they are made in Japan. Different factories and assembly lines.
The honest truth if that US or Canadian workers don’t have the same level of craftsmanship on average as the Japanese workers who only exclusively work in the Lexus plants.
It doesn’t matter if the standards are the same. The car is only as good as the sum of its parts and much of that It’s dependent on human assembly.
The honest truth if that US or Canadian workers don’t have the same level of craftsmanship on average as the Japanese workers who only exclusively work in the Lexus plants.
It doesn’t matter if the standards are the same. The car is only as good as the sum of its parts and much of that It’s dependent on human assembly.
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2. Culture and pride. The mentality of exporting a car representing your nations top luxury car brand vs just a 9-5 job and if I’m not happy I’ll complain to a union is very different.
3. Part suppliers quality. This is the number one concern when Lexus decided to make a few models in the US / Canada.
There are exceptions to the rule. I’m talking about average quality. Ie. over hundred of thousands of cars produced. Not individual cases where both Japan and US made can have issues just as bad as each other.
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For years Lexus only existed in certain countries. The cars were called Toyotas everywhere else.
All of the cars are Toyotas, and the Model is a Lexus blah blah blah.
Same with Acura and Infiniti. It is all marketing.
Shocker, Porsche, Audi, and VW are variants of the same car too.
All of the cars are Toyotas, and the Model is a Lexus blah blah blah.
Same with Acura and Infiniti. It is all marketing.
Shocker, Porsche, Audi, and VW are variants of the same car too.
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