jchall30

‘Seems like a pretty simple statement

703

Such argument is flawed. Workmanship and resultant quality during manufacturing cannot offset a bad design to begin with. Your comprehension of the problem space is incorrect and continuing on such tangent is not productive.

terr1gal

I’ve had four Toyota Highlanders, three made in Japan and a 2016 from the USA. The 2016 was terrible, it had an engine oil leak at 6000 miles and needed a new transmission. I sold it within 8 months. Very poor quality, and made me decide never to buy a US built Toyota again. Aussie NX’s come from Japan hence why I decided to purchase otherwise I would’ve looked elsewhere.

jchall30

‘Your insistence that there are these big manufacturing and quality differences are non productive as well I guess. We will just agree to disagree. No hard feelings.

LexusQ

internet experts.

JasDmw

Thanks for the reply.

Boy, this thread is really getting off topic!

Was just wondering if you noticed any of those preproduction RX units had 4 cylinder engines in them, or not. Maybe some of your pals on that line could give you feedback?

As for the quality issues, our original RX350 was a 2008 model year which we bought in the summer of 2008. It had issues with the sunroof cartridge squeaking incessantly. After several dealership visits to fix it, I noticed trim parts were being replaced because they were breaking after being removed/installed several times. So I wrote a letter to Mr. Lexus Canada, included some cheeky language about this particular car having been missed in the "persuit of perfection". A few weeks later the dealership called me to bring that one in and get a new one. As the model year changed, we took a 2009 and upgraded a bit to a Pebble Beach.

Am now on our 3rd RX (4th if you count the 2008) and the 3 from 2009 onwards are/were flawless.

LexusQ

We only have the shellbody of the 2023 RX. There has yet to be one assembled. Only high level management has those details at the moment

JasDmw

Ok, thx for that. If it's not too much trouble, let us know what you see down the road.

gcskoor

Hi LEXUSQ, I tend to lean that the important issues is the time for any line in any country to get to an optimal efficiency. You seem to agree, if I read it correctly in this long thread. With that being said, if one could time a purchase out of Cambridge, how many months would it take to get a point most start-up issues/training/supplier issues/etc to stabilized typically?

Thanks

703

Did not say “big”. Evidence provided is productive. Not sure how you can disagree with examples from the NHTSA.

703

Yes all Lexus and Toyota sold in Australia is made in Japan. Apart from the current Highlander. Even though they are priced higher, worth it for the consistent build quality.

I have brought 2 sets of OEM brakes, one from US Lexus dealer and one from local Lexus dealer which source from Japan. The Japan set has thicker and better finished paint job.

LexusQ

The first year will definitely have most issues or risk of potential defect outflow. New model builds begin in the fall typically in Canada. A new 2022 NX build would be from Oct 21- Oct 22 typically. I would say after the first model year the quality will only improve after that.

That being said, I have ordered my NX this April and the build will be from Cambridge plant. I am confident in the quality. An order placed in Mid 22 would likely have most issues ironed out. I have a feeling the wait times will only increase from here. I placed mine early April and build is estimated to be July/August (pano roof).

I hope that helps. I would not worry about mechanical quality. Visual defects and fits are the more difficult quality issues to deal with early on.

lsft

A new video on the same topic of Japan vs Canada

T24A

To my understanding, in Japan only the better Toyota workers graduate and move over to the Lexus lines. They also have the options to call out any fit/finish from their suppliers and since in some instances are a helicopter flight away these things get resolved quicker. Yes a lot of things are automated, and I am sure you will have instances were the cars are of equal quality if not some better than others, but If I have the chance to pick between one over the other I am going with MIJ.

evrinus

Not sure why but I believe things go better when.... .

MB BMW VW from Germany
Toyota Honda from Japan
Ford from US