NX made on same line as Rav4
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Such argument is flawed. Workmanship and resultant quality during manufacturing cannot offset a bad design to begin with. Your comprehension of the problem space is incorrect and continuing on such tangent is not productive.
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I’ve had four Toyota Highlanders, three made in Japan and a 2016 from the USA. The 2016 was terrible, it had an engine oil leak at 6000 miles and needed a new transmission. I sold it within 8 months. Very poor quality, and made me decide never to buy a US built Toyota again. Aussie NX’s come from Japan hence why I decided to purchase otherwise I would’ve looked elsewhere.
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‘Your insistence that there are these big manufacturing and quality differences are non productive as well I guess. We will just agree to disagree. No hard feelings.
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Thanks for the reply.
Boy, this thread is really getting off topic!
Was just wondering if you noticed any of those preproduction RX units had 4 cylinder engines in them, or not. Maybe some of your pals on that line could give you feedback?
As for the quality issues, our original RX350 was a 2008 model year which we bought in the summer of 2008. It had issues with the sunroof cartridge squeaking incessantly. After several dealership visits to fix it, I noticed trim parts were being replaced because they were breaking after being removed/installed several times. So I wrote a letter to Mr. Lexus Canada, included some cheeky language about this particular car having been missed in the "persuit of perfection". A few weeks later the dealership called me to bring that one in and get a new one. As the model year changed, we took a 2009 and upgraded a bit to a Pebble Beach.
Am now on our 3rd RX (4th if you count the 2008) and the 3 from 2009 onwards are/were flawless.
Boy, this thread is really getting off topic!
Was just wondering if you noticed any of those preproduction RX units had 4 cylinder engines in them, or not. Maybe some of your pals on that line could give you feedback?
As for the quality issues, our original RX350 was a 2008 model year which we bought in the summer of 2008. It had issues with the sunroof cartridge squeaking incessantly. After several dealership visits to fix it, I noticed trim parts were being replaced because they were breaking after being removed/installed several times. So I wrote a letter to Mr. Lexus Canada, included some cheeky language about this particular car having been missed in the "persuit of perfection". A few weeks later the dealership called me to bring that one in and get a new one. As the model year changed, we took a 2009 and upgraded a bit to a Pebble Beach.
Am now on our 3rd RX (4th if you count the 2008) and the 3 from 2009 onwards are/were flawless.
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Thanks for the reply.
Boy, this thread is really getting off topic!
Was just wondering if you noticed any of those preproduction RX units had 4 cylinder engines in them, or not. Maybe some of your pals on that line could give you feedback?
As for the quality issues, or original RX350 was a 2008 model year which we bought in the summer of 2008. It had issues with the sunroof cartridge squeaking incessantly. After several dealership visits to fix it, I noticed trim parts were being replaced because they were breaking after being removed/installed several times. So I wrote a letter to Mr. Lexus Canada, included some cheeky language about this particular car having been missed in the "persuit of perfection". A few weeks later the dealership called me to bring that one in and get a new one. As the model year changed, we took a 2009 and upgraded a bit to a Pebble Beach.
Am now on our 3rd RX (4th if you count the 2008) and the 3 from 2009 onwards are/were flawless.
Boy, this thread is really getting off topic!
Was just wondering if you noticed any of those preproduction RX units had 4 cylinder engines in them, or not. Maybe some of your pals on that line could give you feedback?
As for the quality issues, or original RX350 was a 2008 model year which we bought in the summer of 2008. It had issues with the sunroof cartridge squeaking incessantly. After several dealership visits to fix it, I noticed trim parts were being replaced because they were breaking after being removed/installed several times. So I wrote a letter to Mr. Lexus Canada, included some cheeky language about this particular car having been missed in the "persuit of perfection". A few weeks later the dealership called me to bring that one in and get a new one. As the model year changed, we took a 2009 and upgraded a bit to a Pebble Beach.
Am now on our 3rd RX (4th if you count the 2008) and the 3 from 2009 onwards are/were flawless.
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Hi LEXUSQ, I tend to lean that the important issues is the time for any line in any country to get to an optimal efficiency. You seem to agree, if I read it correctly in this long thread. With that being said, if one could time a purchase out of Cambridge, how many months would it take to get a point most start-up issues/training/supplier issues/etc to stabilized typically?
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Did not say “big”. Evidence provided is productive. Not sure how you can disagree with examples from the NHTSA.
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I’ve had four Toyota Highlanders, three made in Japan and a 2016 from the USA. The 2016 was terrible, it had an engine oil leak at 6000 miles and needed a new transmission. I sold it within 8 months. Very poor quality, and made me decide never to buy a US built Toyota again. Aussie NX’s come from Japan hence why I decided to purchase otherwise I would’ve looked elsewhere.
I have brought 2 sets of OEM brakes, one from US Lexus dealer and one from local Lexus dealer which source from Japan. The Japan set has thicker and better finished paint job.
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Hi LEXUSQ, I tend to lean that the important issues is the time for any line in any country to get to an optimal efficiency. You seem to agree, if I read it correctly in this long thread. With that being said, if one could time a purchase out of Cambridge, how many months would it take to get a point most start-up issues/training/supplier issues/etc to stabilized typically?
Thanks
Thanks
That being said, I have ordered my NX this April and the build will be from Cambridge plant. I am confident in the quality. An order placed in Mid 22 would likely have most issues ironed out. I have a feeling the wait times will only increase from here. I placed mine early April and build is estimated to be July/August (pano roof).
I hope that helps. I would not worry about mechanical quality. Visual defects and fits are the more difficult quality issues to deal with early on.
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A new video on the same topic of Japan vs Canada
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To my understanding, in Japan only the better Toyota workers graduate and move over to the Lexus lines. They also have the options to call out any fit/finish from their suppliers and since in some instances are a helicopter flight away these things get resolved quicker. Yes a lot of things are automated, and I am sure you will have instances were the cars are of equal quality if not some better than others, but If I have the chance to pick between one over the other I am going with MIJ.