40+ mpg impossible without driving everyone around you crazy
08-02-22, 08:10 AM
#47
The leather nowadays is pretty heavily treated so I don’t think it is as susceptible to cracking. The seats in my RDX still look new after 4 years. Vinyl also cracks — it’s worse than leather because leather stretches but vinyl doesn’t. After 10 years in my BMW with leatherette, there were several long cracks (think like a fold and tear) in the driver seat. I never had passengers much so all other seats were like new. Of course faux leather is probably more durable as well nowadays. (Remember all the cracked dashes in cars from the 80’s?)
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ct6978 (08-02-22)
08-02-22, 08:14 AM
#48
You also have to have the cable sitting around (clutter) and make sure that it's reachable to the charging port. Can also become a tripping hazard. And then cost of installing level 2 charger. (I don't know enough about it to know if it can be used regardless of which EV comes in next, e.g. would the same charger be useful if one bought a Tesla next?)
OK not headaches, but better if one doesn't have to do any of that.
08-02-22, 08:47 AM
#49
When you have to unplug before leaving.
You also have to have the cable sitting around (clutter) and make sure that it's reachable to the charging port. Can also become a tripping hazard. And then cost of installing level 2 charger. (I don't know enough about it to know if it can be used regardless of which EV comes in next, e.g. would the same charger be useful if one bought a Tesla next?)
OK not headaches, but better if one doesn't have to do any of that.
You also have to have the cable sitting around (clutter) and make sure that it's reachable to the charging port. Can also become a tripping hazard. And then cost of installing level 2 charger. (I don't know enough about it to know if it can be used regardless of which EV comes in next, e.g. would the same charger be useful if one bought a Tesla next?)
OK not headaches, but better if one doesn't have to do any of that.
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anoop (08-02-22)
08-02-22, 08:49 AM
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ct6978 (08-02-22)
08-02-22, 09:00 AM
#52
08-02-22, 09:40 AM
#53
You know to be 100% honest with you I think you have something even better, you have less headache. I mean for me because my wife forked over the additional 20 thousand or so for the plug in, I have to pretty much make sure the battery is alwys full because if I let it drain and drive on empty EV battery the effiency is so bad I should have just gone with yours the 350h
So the 37 miles of EV range, compensates the delta of 12.3 gallons of gasoline. So if you drive 39 miles * 12.3 gallons of gas it will be 479.7 miles.
So if I drive 479.7 miles on a day, the NX350h will use 12.3 gallons of gas. The NX450h+ will use (479.7-37=442.7 / 36) will use 12.3 gallons of gas. Of course there is a cost to charge the battery.. So just rounding down to 400 miles as a number, I don't think many of us will drive 400 miles a day everyday.
08-02-22, 09:56 AM
#54
Yeah finally!
Why is the efficiency bad on an empty EV battery? The NX 350H is rated at 39 MPG combined, while the NX450H is 36 MPG combined. For every gallon, the NX350H drives 3 extra miles.
So the 37 miles of EV range, compensates the delta of 12.3 gallons of gasoline. So if you drive 39 miles * 12.3 gallons of gas it will be 479.7 miles.
So if I drive 479.7 miles on a day, the NX350h will use 12.3 gallons of gas. The NX450h+ will use (479.7-37=442.7 / 36) will use 12.3 gallons of gas. Of course there is a cost to charge the battery.. So just rounding down to 400 miles as a number, I don't think many of us will drive 400 miles a day everyday.
So the 37 miles of EV range, compensates the delta of 12.3 gallons of gasoline. So if you drive 39 miles * 12.3 gallons of gas it will be 479.7 miles.
So if I drive 479.7 miles on a day, the NX350h will use 12.3 gallons of gas. The NX450h+ will use (479.7-37=442.7 / 36) will use 12.3 gallons of gas. Of course there is a cost to charge the battery.. So just rounding down to 400 miles as a number, I don't think many of us will drive 400 miles a day everyday.
... besides listening to superb audio 
YMMV,
MidCow3
08-02-22, 10:08 AM
#55
I have a disability and have as much concern about tripping over the cable as I do my garden hose. lol - but yeah don't be a rush to leave without unplugging 
Fortunately I don't need need a level 2 charger. Tesla use a proprietary charger.
Fortunately I don't need need a level 2 charger. Tesla use a proprietary charger.
When you have to unplug before leaving.
You also have to have the cable sitting around (clutter) and make sure that it's reachable to the charging port. Can also become a tripping hazard. And then cost of installing level 2 charger. (I don't know enough about it to know if it can be used regardless of which EV comes in next, e.g. would the same charger be useful if one bought a Tesla next?)
OK not headaches, but better if one doesn't have to do any of that.
You also have to have the cable sitting around (clutter) and make sure that it's reachable to the charging port. Can also become a tripping hazard. And then cost of installing level 2 charger. (I don't know enough about it to know if it can be used regardless of which EV comes in next, e.g. would the same charger be useful if one bought a Tesla next?)
OK not headaches, but better if one doesn't have to do any of that.
08-02-22, 10:27 AM
#56
Intermediate
08-02-22, 10:49 AM
#57
Driver
I have a CT200h, on my second (last one got totaled from behind), and my vehicle is expected to get 40 mpg.
Things that I am aware of that will cause it go under 40 mpg from personal experience
1. Low tire pressure
2. Hot air outside (like now here in Miami, 90F+)
3. Running AC, this is the biggest killer of mpg and worse for hybrids, and can kill up to 8 mpg, generally 5 in hotter weather
4. Running 40 mph+, when you do not have to, I take it easy going on side streets like in the suburban area where I live and save anything more for highway where I have to go that speed
5. Bad alignment, not my CT200hs, but my RX300 had this issue when I lived in Mexico City and took a hard toll on alignment, luckily computer alignments only cost $15 USD there
6. Not being consistent on the accelerator, means if you are going down the road, keep the pedal steady on a given mph
Things that I am aware of that will cause it go under 40 mpg from personal experience
1. Low tire pressure
2. Hot air outside (like now here in Miami, 90F+)
3. Running AC, this is the biggest killer of mpg and worse for hybrids, and can kill up to 8 mpg, generally 5 in hotter weather
4. Running 40 mph+, when you do not have to, I take it easy going on side streets like in the suburban area where I live and save anything more for highway where I have to go that speed
5. Bad alignment, not my CT200hs, but my RX300 had this issue when I lived in Mexico City and took a hard toll on alignment, luckily computer alignments only cost $15 USD there
6. Not being consistent on the accelerator, means if you are going down the road, keep the pedal steady on a given mph
08-02-22, 11:16 AM
#58
If you can charge at night, then it will be still ok with the 450h+. It's not that much more and you really have to drive 400+ miles to break even.
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08-02-22, 11:28 AM
#59
I've had the same experience. Plus I obsess more about and tend to clean/treat (even though its fully coated and I doubt I'm doing anything) my leather seats vs. the wife's NuLuxe, and I don't see the permanent creases developing in the NuLuxe like the leather. NuLuxe is also lighter than the equivalent leather. I haven't seen any issues with recent NuLuxe cars, I'm now a convert.
08-02-22, 11:30 AM
#60
I've been thinking about doing this, easier than getting my wife to 'optimally' coil and uncoil the wire. Picture, please!