There is so much inaccurate information in this thread presented by idiots who know nothing about jdm or usdm toyota motors that Im not even going to try to clear things up.

 

I'd go for a 2JZ-GTE VVTi block - 2nd Gen Aristo swap. If in future you're looking at higher power gains a 3.4L Stroker kit along with the VVTi functionality will give you some killer midrange power/torque along with quicker spoolup than it's non-VVTi 2JZ-GTE brethren - my plan anyway.

Even non stroked the VVTi has better midrange power and seamless transition between the 1st and 2nd turbo where with the non-VVTi you can feel a dip when the transition takes place. The VVTi has weaker rods than the non-VVTi but is still good for 500+rwhp where the stock non VVTi rods are capable of 900+rwhp .

Depends on your goals overall. Are you looking for a high revving 3.0L (8500rpm) or a low revving high displacement 1UZ. Are you looking at custom parts (1UZ) for high horsepower or solid off the shelf aftermarket with the 2JZ-GTE with or without VVTi.

If you give out a bit more detail as to what your goals are with the swap we may be able to give you a better opinion as to what you could go with. I'd say 2JZ-GTE as you can easily get 450rwhp with the stock twins...or a 2JZ-GTE with small single for 500rwhp plus! . Swap might cost more, but more power will cost not so much as the other options (1JZ/1UZ/etc).

 

Im not trying to get into an argument with you but just tired of seeing false information posted. I really respect that your being honest and can distinguish what's "he said/she said" and what's the truth. A lot of people on the internet take what they read as truths and start posting it as the truth.

Just some FYI, the 2jzgte VVTi motor has the same compression as the non VVTi so the compression statement goes out the window. They both have 86x86 bore and stroke with a 8.5 compression. The non vvti motor makes 315ft/tq @ 3600rpm and the vvti motor makes 335ft/tq @ 3600rpm. The extra 20ft/tq is coming from the vvti head since the block has the same compression. The vvti head really helps with power under the curve.

 

cool, ty

so go vvti in other words?

 

I've had some experience with both motors, and I prefer the 1j over the 2j. I like RPM's, that's where the 1j comes in. Granted the 2j can make big #'s, but at low RPM. Tq x RPM = a win lol. I've beat several 2j's with the same or more power because I have more RPM.

 

1UZ here. I just like how it sounds with my RMM exhaust and it's super reliable without a turbo or anything. If your 1JZ or 2JZ could whoop my ***, that's fine by me I still love the turbo SC300s.

 

I did the search and the vvt-i rods are about 1/2 the size of the non-vvti rods. Cute little things.

Although, this wouldnt stop me from dropping a vvti head on a ge block...

 

I was thinking about that

 

I stand corrected. I always though the small rods, which started in 98, only applied to the ge engines.

 

soooo go with non vvti now? lol

 

Im curious, is this really a debate detween vvti or non. I thought 98-2000 would be superior, only more costly.

 

So where to find a 1JZ so cheap? Someone said something about it being near 500?

 

You can find a long block for that price. Check ebay or supraforums but you will need harness ecu etc......

 

Someone find me a 2jzgte/6spd combo

 

You can find those easier than a soarer 5spd combo they will cost a lot more there's a vvti 2jzgte/getrag combo on *bay well at least it was last night.