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#166
Here are some shots of the parts I received from Toyota Japan by way of Carson Toyota to convert the shifter location of a MK3 R154 to suit the Soarer/SC. These parts are OEM parts from the early version Soarer R154, which is a direct descendant of the MK3 R154.
These parts have been referenced multiple times in this thread, but in the event that you have missed them, here they are one more time:
Housing, Shifter (33521-24040)
Control Shift Lever (33570-24010)
The Soarer parts are 1.125" longer than the corresponding MA70 (MK3) Supra parts. This will extend the shifter sufficiently to not contact the metal bar separating the shifter area from the ash tray.
This is a shot to confirm the identical shifter geometries between the MA70 Supra shifter and the C's short shifter for the early version JZZ30 Soarer. Note that the stock shifter from the MK3 that came with my trans had been hacked up a bit:
Here is a shot from another direction to show the similarities in the two shifters. When I received my early version JZZ30 Soarer short shifter from C's in Japan, I noticed that the instruction manual listed the MA70 and JZA70 (MK3) Supra shifters to have the same part number. This is further evidence of the identical shifter:
Here is the money shot showing the differences in shifter location from the two shifter housings. As mentioned, the extension is 1.125", which will give you the OEM shifter location from the early version JZZ30 Soarer trans:
Here is a shot for comparison of the two shifter housings. Notice how much longer the JZZ30 Soarer housing is. But, notice how everything else is identical in term of bolt location, shifter angle, etc:
Here is another shot to compare the Supra and Soarer R154 shifter housings. This shifter housing, which looks altogether similar to what BoostLogic and Tech2 are charging hundreds to custom fabricate, put me out $60 from Toyota Japan through Luis at Carson Toyota. It is a heck of a deal:
If you look really close, you will notice that the shifter housing from Toyota came pre-greased in the socket where the shifter ball enters the housing. I wonder if the Tech2 or Boostlogic extensions come pre-greased?
If the shofter housing is extended 1.125" to suit the Soarer, then the shift lever just inside the housing must be corresspondingly extended 1.125". This piece is that longer shift lever to complete the parts necessary for the shifter extension conversion:
Here is the shift lever inside the stock MK3 trans that needs replacing to put the shifter itself in the appropriate location to suit the extension. If my R154 was not behind 26 things at the moment, I would have pulled the trans and swapped out the piece:
This is a simple mock up shot to illustrate the 1.125" extension from the JZZ30 shift lever that suits the JZZ30 shifter housing. Both of these parts came from Carson Toyota for $76. The shifter housing was $60 and this shift lever was $16:
These parts have been referenced multiple times in this thread, but in the event that you have missed them, here they are one more time:
Housing, Shifter (33521-24040)
Control Shift Lever (33570-24010)
The Soarer parts are 1.125" longer than the corresponding MA70 (MK3) Supra parts. This will extend the shifter sufficiently to not contact the metal bar separating the shifter area from the ash tray.
This is a shot to confirm the identical shifter geometries between the MA70 Supra shifter and the C's short shifter for the early version JZZ30 Soarer. Note that the stock shifter from the MK3 that came with my trans had been hacked up a bit:
Here is a shot from another direction to show the similarities in the two shifters. When I received my early version JZZ30 Soarer short shifter from C's in Japan, I noticed that the instruction manual listed the MA70 and JZA70 (MK3) Supra shifters to have the same part number. This is further evidence of the identical shifter:
Here is the money shot showing the differences in shifter location from the two shifter housings. As mentioned, the extension is 1.125", which will give you the OEM shifter location from the early version JZZ30 Soarer trans:
Here is a shot for comparison of the two shifter housings. Notice how much longer the JZZ30 Soarer housing is. But, notice how everything else is identical in term of bolt location, shifter angle, etc:
Here is another shot to compare the Supra and Soarer R154 shifter housings. This shifter housing, which looks altogether similar to what BoostLogic and Tech2 are charging hundreds to custom fabricate, put me out $60 from Toyota Japan through Luis at Carson Toyota. It is a heck of a deal:
If you look really close, you will notice that the shifter housing from Toyota came pre-greased in the socket where the shifter ball enters the housing. I wonder if the Tech2 or Boostlogic extensions come pre-greased?
If the shofter housing is extended 1.125" to suit the Soarer, then the shift lever just inside the housing must be corresspondingly extended 1.125". This piece is that longer shift lever to complete the parts necessary for the shifter extension conversion:
Here is the shift lever inside the stock MK3 trans that needs replacing to put the shifter itself in the appropriate location to suit the extension. If my R154 was not behind 26 things at the moment, I would have pulled the trans and swapped out the piece:
This is a simple mock up shot to illustrate the 1.125" extension from the JZZ30 shift lever that suits the JZZ30 shifter housing. Both of these parts came from Carson Toyota for $76. The shifter housing was $60 and this shift lever was $16:
#168
Lexus Champion
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Thank you so much for your path finding. I always wondered if there was an OEM solution to retrofitting an R154 and you've figured it out. Check's in the mail!
I will be calling Luis on Tuesday and placing the order for the parts.
I know driftmotion sells the 1JZ bell housing for the R154. Where did you get yours? Can Carson get those for us also?
Now I just need to track down a JZA70 MK3 R154!
I will be calling Luis on Tuesday and placing the order for the parts.
I know driftmotion sells the 1JZ bell housing for the R154. Where did you get yours? Can Carson get those for us also?
Now I just need to track down a JZA70 MK3 R154!
#169
Racer
Any toyota dealership can order the 1jzgte bellhousing. Some dealerships offer discounts to supra owners though. Carson can get it, but i dont think i would want them to ship something that big from canada.
Blizzy. My friend Loren is doing a 1jz swap into his mk3 and by LUCK received a early model soarer trans with the parts you listed above, and he's willing to trade me supra parts for them.. My question is how do I get the shift lever out? is it just that bolt or do I need to remove the entire tail shaft of the trans to get it out?
Blizzy. My friend Loren is doing a 1jz swap into his mk3 and by LUCK received a early model soarer trans with the parts you listed above, and he's willing to trade me supra parts for them.. My question is how do I get the shift lever out? is it just that bolt or do I need to remove the entire tail shaft of the trans to get it out?
#170
Thank you so much for your path finding. I always wondered if there was an OEM solution to retrofitting an R154 and you've figured it out. Check's in the mail!
I will be calling Luis on Tuesday and placing the order for the parts.
I know driftmotion sells the 1JZ bell housing for the R154. Where did you get yours? Can Carson get those for us also?
Now I just need to track down a JZA70 MK3 R154!
I will be calling Luis on Tuesday and placing the order for the parts.
I know driftmotion sells the 1JZ bell housing for the R154. Where did you get yours? Can Carson get those for us also?
Now I just need to track down a JZA70 MK3 R154!
Champion Toyota in Texas has the best price on the 1JZ bellhousing that you will find. They pride themselves on this. Call and ask for Jay.
A JZA70 R154 would require no bellhousing swap. You may struggle to find one of them. But, MA70 R154 transmissions are a dime per dozen. I got mine with no grinds, all its gears, and 100k miles for $150 with the front driveshaft. Check Supraforums classifieds.
ps. there is not need to thank me. this pathfinding is me just sharing some toyota love with everyone in the community.
Originally Posted by joewitafro
My question is how do I get the shift lever out? is it just that bolt or do I need to remove the entire tail shaft of the trans to get it out?
Originally Posted by ACleanSC4
wow, this is great news. You have sure done a lot for the SC400 community, I need to get my lazy butt up and do a swap as well!
#172
Lexus Champion
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Blizzy, great update, love the detail, and appreciate the tremendous aid you are to the performance of the Lexus V8 Community...As Tony said, you really are an inspiration!! I look forward to seeing your ride at the V8 Shootout!! We are up to 40 committed now...COme on out guys!!!!!!!
Ryan
Ryan
#173
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Looking good mate!
That's some pretty useful info, will extend the range of boxes that we can now use.
Have you sorted a flywheel and bellhousing? Have you seen what's available here in NZ?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Lis...?member=518336
Matt.
That's some pretty useful info, will extend the range of boxes that we can now use.
Have you sorted a flywheel and bellhousing? Have you seen what's available here in NZ?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Lis...?member=518336
Matt.
#175
Racer
Any updates?
#177
*bows down*
thank you so much for the best (imo) alternative r154 extension. OEM parts and cheaper prices...what more can i ask for? thank you so much for showing this awesome information!
thank you so much for the best (imo) alternative r154 extension. OEM parts and cheaper prices...what more can i ask for? thank you so much for showing this awesome information!
#178
you are welcome, man. it is all about asking the right people. knowledge is power. this very situation is exactly why these forums are so valuable: the community can benefit so much from everyone actively contributing their findings. again, you are welcome.