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Old 01-19-09 | 08:23 AM
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Ok, so I am still making my way through this wiring mess of an SC300 I picked up recently. The speedo is dead in this car, but it doesn't appear to be a cluster issue as I checked it by changing it out for a known good one...no dice.

The previous owner told me the speedo sensor was changed....but he also said the car had a R154 Soarer (which it DOES not). I put the car up on stands to investigate and did see some wiring done at the speedo sensor on the rear/driverside of the W58 trans. Looks like an aftermarket replacement as there was no plug and both wires coming out the sensor are black. Being that sensor might produce a VR signal, polarity would matter. I switched the wiring around and still nothing.

Now being that the wiring is a bit of a hack on this car, does anybody know if the signal from that sensor goes DIRECTLY to the cluster or does it pass through the ECU or similar first. I want to trace continuity back to the sensor as I don't believe the signal is getting to the actual place it needs to go.

If somebody knows the above and it checks out, I'll pull the sensor and verify its a good replacement and that the teeth on the bottom aren't too beaten up, which I've seen is a known problem.

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Old 01-27-09 | 06:36 PM
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OK....so after picking up the 1992 wiring diagram traced back all the wiring.

Also, for anybody reading this in the future, the sensor for the actual gauge cluster is on the passenger side of the trans near the back under the shifter area.

The Blue/red stripe wire has continuity all the way to the cluster, the red wire has continuity to ground and the yellow wire has 12v with the ignition ON. This is leading me to believe its a logic board in the cluster issue OR the sensor itself is bad.

I pulled the sensor and it was a little difficult to turn, I don't know if that is normal or not??? The teeth where fine though....

The cluster I changed with came out of an automatic, do those not work in manual cars? (it came out of a 1994 as my car is a 92).

Any input at all would be greatly appreciated.
Old 01-27-09 | 06:40 PM
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I appreciate you taking the time to search but this is engine related topic. I'll go ahead and move it over to the performance section. Thanks.
Old 01-27-09 | 06:59 PM
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OH...oops....I saw performance and figured...as in going faster type stuff

Didn't know where to post general maintenance type stuff.
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Ok, so I replaced the Speed Sensor (3 wire under shifter) with a BRAND NEW OEM Piece from the dealership and the speedo is still fricken dead. What a waste of $200! I've tried moving the needle with my finger while moving because some people have had an issue with the motor losing lubrication (or something like that) over the years.

I'm out of things to check now....wiring from the sensor is good all the way from the trans to the cluster. I've changed the motor out from a known good cluster as well. Any other input would be greatly appreciated at this point.
Old 02-05-09 | 08:10 AM
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have you check the known good cluster to see if it moves now? Take your cluster out (variable) and first get a known working cluster to work in your car. then begin working yours.

knwon cluster = works in another car right now and when taken out does not work in yours but when placed back in other car it works.

Remove as many variables as you can. My .02
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I have tried that...

The cluster I changed with came out of an automatic, do those not work in manual cars? (it came out of a 1994 as my car is a 92).
I just don't know if the 94 cluster was compatible? When I use that cluster the RPM will also go dead, but the fuel and coolant gauges work as expected.
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I can't believe nobody on this forum didn't suggest changing the plastic gear on the speed sensor....$18 fricken dollars and the speedo works
Old 05-16-09 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by shaodome
I can't believe nobody on this forum didn't suggest changing the plastic gear on the speed sensor....$18 fricken dollars and the speedo works
My sc speedometer does not work either from the time I bought the car in march. Where did you get the plastic gear from and did you take pics if so please post them.
Old 07-07-09 | 07:33 PM
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Where did you get your wire diagram?

My trans is slipping and i have no CEL in my 92 sc300. I think my problem is in my wire harness, its from a JZZ30 4speed.
Old 07-07-09 | 10:35 PM
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i bought it on ebay.
Old 09-15-09 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shaodome
i bought it on ebay.
Can you provide a link for the product on ebay...????
Old 09-16-09 | 08:13 AM
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there isn't one right now...
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Aight then man thanks. If you find one please let me know...
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