water / meth injection on supercharged v8 - coming soon
#16
I have listed several reasons why one would want to inject pre compressor. Go to this link and do some research http://www.waterinjection.info/ In the "gasoline forced-induction" section there is a sticky on the top with a wealth of info on pre compressor injector. If you (no one specific) don't want to take the time to read some info then please don't tell me it's not a good idea based on your (again, no one specific) pre concieved ideas.
Not to mention that pre-compressor injection is nothing new. It has been done on everything from military aircraft to F1 cars. Again, do some research, it's not hard.
KC
Not to mention that pre-compressor injection is nothing new. It has been done on everything from military aircraft to F1 cars. Again, do some research, it's not hard.
KC
Last edited by ScottURnot; 04-23-09 at 06:06 PM. Reason: thread clean up
#17
I have listed several reasons why one would want to inject pre compressor. Go to this link and do some research http://www.waterinjection.info/ In the "gasoline forced-induction" section there is a sticky on the top with a wealth of info on pre compressor injector. If you (no one specific) don't want to take the time to read some info then please don't tell me it's not a good idea based on your (again, no one specific) pre concieved ideas.
Not to mention that pre-compressor injection is nothing new. It has been done on everything from military aircraft to F1 cars. Again, do some research, it's not hard.
KC
*Edit, just so you know, I know that site pretty well, same as the Devils Own forum. Something you might want to notice. All of that that people are saying, is very stretched theory. It's never backed from what I saw, and what they are relating it to is apples to oranges.
Last edited by ScottURnot; 04-23-09 at 06:08 PM.
#18
As far as the pre injection, I am pretty much set on at least trying it. There are actually quite a few cases of proven benefits. I posted this link back a few - http://www.hyundai-forums.com/t26613...-injection.htm This is one example with quite a few dyno graphs to back it up. As far as the negatives, there is less proof of them. Most of the info I have found talking about blade errosion and such are said, by the poster, to be inconclusive. You also need to keep in mind that most people that have done it have been with turbo. A turbo spins MUCH faster than my Vortech which maxes at about 45,000 rpm if I remember my calculations when sizing my pulley. Less speed = less impact.
BTW, my engine is not exactlly a turbocharged inline six either.
KC
BTW, my engine is not exactlly a turbocharged inline six either.
KC
Last edited by ScottURnot; 04-23-09 at 06:09 PM.
#19
As far as the pre injection, I am pretty much set on at least trying it. There are actually quite a few cases of proven benefits. I posted this link back a few - http://www.hyundai-forums.com/t26613...-injection.htm This is one example with quite a few dyno graphs to back it up. As far as the negatives, there is less proof of them. Most of the info I have found talking about blade errosion and such are said, by the poster, to be inconclusive. You also need to keep in mind that most people that have done it have been with turbo. A turbo spins MUCH faster than my Vortech which maxes at about 45,000 rpm if I remember my calculations when sizing my pulley. Less speed = less impact.
BTW, my engine is not exactlly a turbocharged inline six either.
KC
BTW, my engine is not exactlly a turbocharged inline six either.
KC
Last edited by ScottURnot; 04-23-09 at 06:09 PM.
#20
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/per...injection.html
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=267257
The supra link is good
My bottle & pump placement.
Single nozzle. Turbo app. I know your talking about Supercharged.
BTW if you get rid of your IC all together you will rely 100% on the bottle. It will run out on you. Something to keep in mind.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=267257
The supra link is good
My bottle & pump placement.
Single nozzle. Turbo app. I know your talking about Supercharged.
BTW if you get rid of your IC all together you will rely 100% on the bottle. It will run out on you. Something to keep in mind.
#23
#25
LexusFTW, I'm a V8 guy of course but damn, I like that setup!
I still haven't decided if I'm going through the engine bay, what kind of temps are / were you seeing. Boosting and normal driving? You say "old" setup, what's the new one?
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Got my kit today, I'll try and take some pics a little later. Won't attempt and install untill Saturday night most likely.
KC
I still haven't decided if I'm going through the engine bay, what kind of temps are / were you seeing. Boosting and normal driving? You say "old" setup, what's the new one?
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Got my kit today, I'll try and take some pics a little later. Won't attempt and install untill Saturday night most likely.
KC
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KC, I am locking this thread while I clean it up. Guys, I really get tired of spending my time doing this. Grow up!
I will unlock thread once I am done and then it better stay on topic or I will break out the infractions.
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OK thread is unlocked now. Please try and be nice to each other.
KC,
I to am looking at water/meth injection, I have a couple setups setting in the shop, will be really interested in your results!
I will unlock thread once I am done and then it better stay on topic or I will break out the infractions.
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OK thread is unlocked now. Please try and be nice to each other.
KC,
I to am looking at water/meth injection, I have a couple setups setting in the shop, will be really interested in your results!
Last edited by ScottURnot; 04-23-09 at 06:15 PM.
#28
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I am thinking after my TB before the supercharger, my set up really has no place to do it on the intake unless I did 8 small mist nozzles. To much trouble. John crib dumped his right in the supercharger inlet if I remember right.
#29
don't use water on the compressors
"why do you think they use water in the cutting of CAD Designs"
Spray the water in the turbo side of the intercooler inlet. which also eliminates the use of NOS, Cry02 intercooler spray etc
"why do you think they use water in the cutting of CAD Designs"
Spray the water in the turbo side of the intercooler inlet. which also eliminates the use of NOS, Cry02 intercooler spray etc
#30
If you're dead set on going no I/C, you should make sure you kit has some way to tell you there's no flow (I know aquamist makes a sensor for this). Even a simple LED to tell you there's flow at the jet would work. That way you can get off of the throttle if for some reason it's not working. May want to also thing about having a tank with a float in it so you know when you're running low on water/meth.
Last edited by spin all 4; 04-26-09 at 12:37 PM.