Can you use non-turbo parts on the sc300 engine
#1
Can you use non-turbo parts on the sc300 engine
My question is on performance parts for a 1993 sc300. I would think that you would be able to use performance parts from a same year non-turbo supra considering it is the same engine. Just wanted to make sure before i started swapping out parts and things go wrong if in fact you can not do that. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.
Last edited by gully06; 07-26-09 at 09:59 PM.
#3
they may have the same engine code 1j 2j 1u 2u 3u etc.
individual parts are different
the tt has oil squirters for the crank and piston
the tt pistons and rods are different etc
turbo water and oil return lines
heads are totally different (ports, cams, valves, springs etc.)
lots of other little things
individual parts are different
the tt has oil squirters for the crank and piston
the tt pistons and rods are different etc
turbo water and oil return lines
heads are totally different (ports, cams, valves, springs etc.)
lots of other little things
#5
The 2jzge and 2jzgte are very similar. The crank, block, and rods are the same. The pistons are not, but all internals are good for around 700hp TESTED. Wouldn't push them beyond it, but they can do it. Make sure you go with ARP studs for the head though... and a couple of other things.
The gte has oil squirters and a 12 point distributor system (iirc), where-as the 2jzge does not. The heads are completely different, but both hold up well with boost. For more info on the differences check www.clubna-t.com. I am running a 2jzna-t setup on my supra as well. Will have video of her running here as soon as I get my motor back from the shop.
Doesn't matter which motor he asked about, he should know what he has in there and the similarities for further upgrades He could always go NA-t instead of spending $$$ to make it powerful on all-motor He should be safe with 6-8psi on the stock motor, just retorque the stock head bolts, tune it right, and use a small-ish turbo and he'll have plenty for a DD that is fun and reliable. If it's not VVTI, he can pick up a set of MKiii 7mgte 440 injectors and swap them right in. They fit like a charm. Just TUNE IT RIGHT.
The decision is not up to me though And it all depends on what condition his motor is in and what he can spend on it.
The gte has oil squirters and a 12 point distributor system (iirc), where-as the 2jzge does not. The heads are completely different, but both hold up well with boost. For more info on the differences check www.clubna-t.com. I am running a 2jzna-t setup on my supra as well. Will have video of her running here as soon as I get my motor back from the shop.
Doesn't matter which motor he asked about, he should know what he has in there and the similarities for further upgrades He could always go NA-t instead of spending $$$ to make it powerful on all-motor He should be safe with 6-8psi on the stock motor, just retorque the stock head bolts, tune it right, and use a small-ish turbo and he'll have plenty for a DD that is fun and reliable. If it's not VVTI, he can pick up a set of MKiii 7mgte 440 injectors and swap them right in. They fit like a charm. Just TUNE IT RIGHT.
The decision is not up to me though And it all depends on what condition his motor is in and what he can spend on it.
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The 2jzge and 2jzgte are very similar. The crank, block, and rods are the same. The pistons are not, but all internals are good for around 700hp TESTED. Wouldn't push them beyond it, but they can do it. Make sure you go with ARP studs for the head though... and a couple of other things.
The gte has oil squirters and a 12 point distributor system (iirc), where-as the 2jzge does not. The heads are completely different, but both hold up well with boost. For more info on the differences check www.clubna-t.com. I am running a 2jzna-t setup on my supra as well. Will have video of her running here as soon as I get my motor back from the shop.
Doesn't matter which motor he asked about, he should know what he has in there and the similarities for further upgrades He could always go NA-t instead of spending $$$ to make it powerful on all-motor He should be safe with 6-8psi on the stock motor, just retorque the stock head bolts, tune it right, and use a small-ish turbo and he'll have plenty for a DD that is fun and reliable. If it's not VVTI, he can pick up a set of MKiii 7mgte 440 injectors and swap them right in. They fit like a charm. Just TUNE IT RIGHT.
The decision is not up to me though And it all depends on what condition his motor is in and what he can spend on it.
The gte has oil squirters and a 12 point distributor system (iirc), where-as the 2jzge does not. The heads are completely different, but both hold up well with boost. For more info on the differences check www.clubna-t.com. I am running a 2jzna-t setup on my supra as well. Will have video of her running here as soon as I get my motor back from the shop.
Doesn't matter which motor he asked about, he should know what he has in there and the similarities for further upgrades He could always go NA-t instead of spending $$$ to make it powerful on all-motor He should be safe with 6-8psi on the stock motor, just retorque the stock head bolts, tune it right, and use a small-ish turbo and he'll have plenty for a DD that is fun and reliable. If it's not VVTI, he can pick up a set of MKiii 7mgte 440 injectors and swap them right in. They fit like a charm. Just TUNE IT RIGHT.
The decision is not up to me though And it all depends on what condition his motor is in and what he can spend on it.
Last edited by TumblerZ30; 07-28-09 at 11:10 PM. Reason: Additional thoughts
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#8
Well, I do have a copy of Maximum Boost as well as all of the 1jz and 2jz TSRM's, so I know exactly what you are saying, and I know how to map compressor charts too lol As for small-ish, by this concept I mean something around the size of a 57-60 trim. Wouldn't take long to spool, nor would he need to run very much to have fun. Keep in mind, I have not done these compressor maps, so I have no idea which turbo specifically, these are examples only. If you would like, I can look up some sizes and recommend them to you and show you via compressor mapping how they would fit your car, but the turbo type depends on the manifold type (t3/t4, etc). But enough thread-jacking : )
A turbo does not have to be huge, just efficient enough to do what the owner wants it to do. Smaller turbo (yet within efficiency for this motor) = faster spool, wont be running higher than 8-12 psi daily. Larger turbo = Monster boost, Monster fun. Plain and simple lol Of course, every subject has many facets to it, its not as easy as saying 'Oh I want this turbo! I want to go fast!' *install follows*
A turbo does not have to be huge, just efficient enough to do what the owner wants it to do. Smaller turbo (yet within efficiency for this motor) = faster spool, wont be running higher than 8-12 psi daily. Larger turbo = Monster boost, Monster fun. Plain and simple lol Of course, every subject has many facets to it, its not as easy as saying 'Oh I want this turbo! I want to go fast!' *install follows*
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