97 1JZ starting issue...
#1
97 1JZ starting issue...
Well, im pretty much stumped on this one....
first wired up the NSS bypass in Biggu's thread, nothing happend though. removed the wire and plugged in the starter relay and WTF the starter engages!
digging through the wiring, somehow it's getting 12V to the relay even with the ignition switch off. Removing the theft deterent ECU stops the cranking problem (the other side of the relay gets grounded through the theft ECU) but the car can't start without it...so im basically stuck
found this post a while back, but didn't fix my problem: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/2015272-post12.html
95+ seems to have this problem, i see a lot of guys just wire in a push button start, but i'd like to avoid that if at all possible. Is there a solution to all this?
first wired up the NSS bypass in Biggu's thread, nothing happend though. removed the wire and plugged in the starter relay and WTF the starter engages!
digging through the wiring, somehow it's getting 12V to the relay even with the ignition switch off. Removing the theft deterent ECU stops the cranking problem (the other side of the relay gets grounded through the theft ECU) but the car can't start without it...so im basically stuck
found this post a while back, but didn't fix my problem: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/2015272-post12.html
95+ seems to have this problem, i see a lot of guys just wire in a push button start, but i'd like to avoid that if at all possible. Is there a solution to all this?
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thnx, but i think i may have a solution along with the 3k problem at the same time while still retaining the stock neutral safety switch..........i need to get the car actually running first to confirm my suspicions, so stay tuned
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mine did that randomly the other day, was cranking with the key removed. on an aem.
I had to yank the battery terminal, and everytime i reconnected it would start cranking again with no key in. if I put the key in it would start up and stop cranking, remove, same as before. I played with the relay, the battery terminals, and i decided to put the key in and turn it like I was trying to crank it while it was cranking itself and something magical happened and it started working like normal again. sorry for the long response but I have no idea what exactly "fixed it", but it eventually went away.
I had to yank the battery terminal, and everytime i reconnected it would start cranking again with no key in. if I put the key in it would start up and stop cranking, remove, same as before. I played with the relay, the battery terminals, and i decided to put the key in and turn it like I was trying to crank it while it was cranking itself and something magical happened and it started working like normal again. sorry for the long response but I have no idea what exactly "fixed it", but it eventually went away.
#5
this i think is a prob on the Auto ECU being mated to a manual car. one of the pins is getting 12V to the starter relay, no key no nothing. Every time i would hook up the battery it would turn over on its own. I need to do some more research and experimenting first, will update this tomorrow when i work on the car
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**UPDATE**
i have the car cranking properly now, not close to running yet though. Im still hesitant about releasing details ATM, but if anyone is willing to be a test subject, PM me and i'll send you details. I'll have a full write up once my car is up and running.
i have the car cranking properly now, not close to running yet though. Im still hesitant about releasing details ATM, but if anyone is willing to be a test subject, PM me and i'll send you details. I'll have a full write up once my car is up and running.
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im pretty sure it has nothing to do with having an auto ecu, as im currently running a manual ecu in my swap and having the same issue. id be willing to test something out for ya if you have some good ideas
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not quite sure what your experiencing, but I use an auto ecu and manual tranny all I did was find the wire directly off of the ignition that sends power when cranked and ran it from the connector all the way to my start relay in the engine bay fuse box bypassing all the ecu safety switches its easy, and simple.. dont know if this helps..
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not quite sure what your experiencing, but I use an auto ecu and manual tranny all I did was find the wire directly off of the ignition that sends power when cranked and ran it from the connector all the way to my start relay in the engine bay fuse box bypassing all the ecu safety switches its easy, and simple.. dont know if this helps..
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well,...so Whats the Deal?
Every Thread on this Board (SC 300/400) that has anything to do with a problem ends with Nothing.I can Count at-least 7 threads.
*3 alone on the sputtering Issue and it was Never answered.
any update?
Every Thread on this Board (SC 300/400) that has anything to do with a problem ends with Nothing.I can Count at-least 7 threads.
*3 alone on the sputtering Issue and it was Never answered.
any update?
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Here's a sputtering issue thread solved.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/per...ing-issue.html
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well that helped that particular person,..but not the other 4-5+ threads.
1 guys issues was cutting 1 blk unknown wire. never stated exact or wgat it was.
1 guys issue was his tach signal due to dead rpm gauge
1 guys issue was ignitor
the rest never completed the threads...trust me i just read through a ton, so i have some ammo when i crank mine soon.
but what about the starting issue? thats what this thread is about and...."dun,dun daaaa" = incomplete.
1 guys issues was cutting 1 blk unknown wire. never stated exact or wgat it was.
1 guys issue was his tach signal due to dead rpm gauge
1 guys issue was ignitor
the rest never completed the threads...trust me i just read through a ton, so i have some ammo when i crank mine soon.
but what about the starting issue? thats what this thread is about and...."dun,dun daaaa" = incomplete.
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