Misleading? How? Bone stock, they are.

Quite the contradiction since you are so stuck on 2jz headflow and half a liter of displacement increase.

Here is a stock internaled 1jz spitting out 7 bills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmhyHwp8sp4

Here is a stock longblock 2jz doing 150 in the quarter.
3500lb car, 150mph in the quarter, carry the one..Hey! Stock 1000hp 2jz!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgapHDN_zMU

And another stock blocker, with stock headbolts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asqmqwuOwP0

What do you know!?

Optimize? Therefore? Spool as fast as what?

That's a lot of big, smart sounding words even though there isn't one solid fact in any of your response.

Who wants to see Account2x's 2jz tattoo?

Who wants to see his 2jz car?

Who wants to see all these headflow charts he keeps referencing?

I do! I do!

 

You can do just about the same on both engines but I never seen a stock 1j push more than 600+ that will last. The video of the white sc with the 1j just blew his motor about a month ago. Dont know the exact cause of it but with the right tunning many things can be possible.

 

If i had known how to do it myself back then i would have gone through with it, but who's to say that the 2JZ i got would've had problems with it? I might have spent even more just to fix the problems that came with the engine. I had problems with my 1JZ when i got it, had to swap parts, etc. It's the luck of the draw, and i drew a bad apple of an engine. Because of this, I do have second thoughts from time to time, but i have a 1JZ now and i might as well go with it.

The point i was trying to make earlier is about choosing the engine that fits what YOU want. it all depends on what you are looking for out of the car in the long run. I didn't intend to make this a 1JZ vs. 2JZ battle. I'll admit, head to head a 2JZ can romp on the 1JZ all day long. That doesn't mean a 1JZ is a ****ty engine. Just like any engine, it has its limits and it happens that the 2JZ can make the power where the 1JZ can't. However, a 1JZ can still be competitive with a lot of other cars out there.

If you want an engine with huge potential to be an all out monster and tear up a drag strip and then some, go with a 2JZ

If you want a good street warrior with decent power potential that's different than the rest of the pack, go with a 1JZ

i realize these are both generalizations of the two, but im trying to give the OP an idea at what he wants both out of the box and what he hopes for the future.

 

All this can be bought at Driftmotion without a doubt.... people make it seem like its super hard to find parts for the 1jz... it is not..

 

I am currently in between on which engine to chose. I figured the 1JZ would be cheaper and fit the power requirements I am looking for 400-500HP would be enough for me. BUT, it is a valid point that if I am going to have to spend another $1K on parts just for the 1JZ swap, I might as well go with the 2JZ swap..but then again, that $1K also includes gaskets and seals and the other stuff I would want to replace on either engine before I dropped it in. I guess I have time to mull it over until I get back stateside.

 

Nope! Stick to a 1j for the power range you want. Both engines take the same amount of work to put in and make power so dont get that confused. Save yourself a few dollars and settle for less but still good.

 

Your logic makes no sense. You are not saving any money going with the 1JZ. You get what you pay for. 1JZ will give you less low-end torque and more turbo lag. The stock twins are the worst out of all the JZ engines. Aesthetically I believe it also looks ugly.

Now if you are going to swap in a 1JZ-GTE VVT-i then that might be a different story but even so I can't say the VVT-i makes up for the lower displacement and worse headflow.

 

God damn you.

YOUR Logic makes no sense Account2x.

You are saving tons of money going 1jz. If you find a clean one, you don't even have to touch the front of the engine.

$1200 done deal. You can't beat that with a baseball bat.

Saying the 2jz is better than the 1jz is like saying the 5.4 terminator is better than the 4.6.

At the end of the day the turbo is making the power, weather is comes in 500rpm eariler is up to the owner.

Seriously, you are so lame riding the 2jz **** so hard.

It doesn't matter which JZ engine you get.

You have never drivin a 500 hp car in your life, and you would kill yourself if you did.

So stop acting like you know the difference between 300hp and 1000hp.

Pages of your heresay bull****ting, along with your standby Google headflow chart that doesn't even say anything, are really staring to get annoying.

Lets see your 2jz smarta$$, and not some lame pedal swap that a drunk 4 year old can do.

Seriously.

If you love the 2jz so much, why don't you marry it?

 

Living life dangerously I see.

The engine spools the turbo dude.

whether.

The 2JZ is better than then the 1JZ.

 

Funny still no pictures of your 2jz.

 

You got a 1JZ and are backwards rationalizing it.

 

You have never drivin a 500hp car.

You don't have a 2jz, so just stop.

Stop killing everyones thread with your bull shyte.

Just stop.

STOP.

570p.

stop.

And still no proof of your 2jz.

BYE.

 

HHAHA I like the passion in this thread.

But I have already decided to stick with the 1JZGTE VVTI. I am never going to want more than 500HP and the 1JZ is capable of handling that. Plus, it saves me some dinero.

 

LOL me too. I've really gotten my self into this....

account2x, i appreciate your passion for the 2JZ, but this isn't your car we're talking about here. Let the guy make up his own mind here. We are supposed to be here to give him insight on his decision, not turn this into a pissing contest.

 

^^ Exactly

I might as well address a few questions I have since I came into this thread. I talked to a few buddies back home who have a pretty good base of knowledge on all things Toyota and I was telling them about all the additional parts I would need (stuff I saw on the first page of this thread), they seem to disagree but it doesn't hurt to clearify.

I can't get to any ebay links because I am on a DoD internet connection, so I am not sure if those parts are necessary because the motor the OP ordered didn't come with them, or if it is because of the type of 1JZ he ordered, or what? I hate to be redundant but lets say I order a 1JZGTE VVTi, will I still need to source all of the extra 2JZ parts like the water pump, fan stuff, etc?