How long should a shop with lifts and air tools take to install v8 headers?
06-29-11, 06:18 PM
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quit being a cheap ***. a shop is a business. people aren't in business to give out deals. people like me are in business to make money. if you pay me for a 10 hour job and i get it done in 4, i still get paid for 10. if i know any secrets of the trade and i apply them, then i make more money. more cars in the shop and out of the shop in the same time means more money for me. thats what the book calls for. thats what you are going to pay.
to summarize... don't be a cheap ***. pay the man what it calls for. you get what you pay for...
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Right Bank B 3.9 5.2
Left Bank B 4.2 5.9
quit being a cheap ***. a shop is a business. people aren't in business to give out deals. people like me are in business to make money. if you pay me for a 10 hour job and i get it done in 4, i still get paid for 10. if i know any secrets of the trade and i apply them, then i make more money. more cars in the shop and out of the shop in the same time means more money for me. thats what the book calls for. thats what you are going to pay.
to summarize... don't be a cheap ***. pay the man what it calls for. you get what you pay for...
To the OP. I think $750 is high too. I did my own headers on my car. Yes it is a pain in the a$$ but not $750 pain in the a$$. The hardest part of the job is getting the heat shield off the driver's side manifold. I wish I were up there cause Id do it for you for $300. Good luck finding some help.
06-29-11, 07:35 PM
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Exhaust Manifold
Replace
Right Bank B 3.9 5.2
Left Bank B 4.2 5.9
quit being a cheap ***. a shop is a business. people aren't in business to give out deals. people like me are in business to make money. if you pay me for a 10 hour job and i get it done in 4, i still get paid for 10. if i know any secrets of the trade and i apply them, then i make more money. more cars in the shop and out of the shop in the same time means more money for me. thats what the book calls for. thats what you are going to pay.
to summarize... don't be a cheap ***. pay the man what it calls for. you get what you pay for...
Replace
Right Bank B 3.9 5.2
Left Bank B 4.2 5.9
quit being a cheap ***. a shop is a business. people aren't in business to give out deals. people like me are in business to make money. if you pay me for a 10 hour job and i get it done in 4, i still get paid for 10. if i know any secrets of the trade and i apply them, then i make more money. more cars in the shop and out of the shop in the same time means more money for me. thats what the book calls for. thats what you are going to pay.
to summarize... don't be a cheap ***. pay the man what it calls for. you get what you pay for...
06-30-11, 01:32 PM
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Exhaust Manifold
Replace
Right Bank B 3.9 5.2
Left Bank B 4.2 5.9
quit being a cheap ***. a shop is a business. people aren't in business to give out deals. people like me are in business to make money. if you pay me for a 10 hour job and i get it done in 4, i still get paid for 10. if i know any secrets of the trade and i apply them, then i make more money. more cars in the shop and out of the shop in the same time means more money for me. thats what the book calls for. thats what you are going to pay.
to summarize... don't be a cheap ***. pay the man what it calls for. you get what you pay for...
Replace
Right Bank B 3.9 5.2
Left Bank B 4.2 5.9
quit being a cheap ***. a shop is a business. people aren't in business to give out deals. people like me are in business to make money. if you pay me for a 10 hour job and i get it done in 4, i still get paid for 10. if i know any secrets of the trade and i apply them, then i make more money. more cars in the shop and out of the shop in the same time means more money for me. thats what the book calls for. thats what you are going to pay.
to summarize... don't be a cheap ***. pay the man what it calls for. you get what you pay for...
07-01-11, 05:14 AM
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all i'm saying is if a job calls for 10 hours, and i finish in less time, i get paid for 10 hours. you pay for 10 hours. if it takes me 15, i get paid for 10. if i get done in 5, i get paid for 10. period, end of story. maybe you should try to understand how the world really works. you've paid me for my skills and knowledge, not because i'm a useless mechanic. it's called flat rate labor. why would i get paid less for a job that calls for 10 hours? you should try telling that to your local mechanic and see how fast he tells you to get ****ed!
07-01-11, 05:17 AM
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SHUT UP! Your comment was totally uncalled for. You obviously didnt get the jest of what the OP is saying.
To the OP. I think $750 is high too. I did my own headers on my car. Yes it is a pain in the a$$ but not $750 pain in the a$$. The hardest part of the job is getting the heat shield off the driver's side manifold. I wish I were up there cause Id do it for you for $300. Good luck finding some help.
To the OP. I think $750 is high too. I did my own headers on my car. Yes it is a pain in the a$$ but not $750 pain in the a$$. The hardest part of the job is getting the heat shield off the driver's side manifold. I wish I were up there cause Id do it for you for $300. Good luck finding some help.
i bet you'd use a craftsman crescent wrench too...
07-01-11, 10:06 AM
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all i'm saying is if a job calls for 10 hours, and i finish in less time, i get paid for 10 hours. you pay for 10 hours. if it takes me 15, i get paid for 10. if i get done in 5, i get paid for 10. period, end of story. maybe you should try to understand how the world really works. you've paid me for my skills and knowledge, not because i'm a useless mechanic. it's called flat rate labor. why would i get paid less for a job that calls for 10 hours? you should try telling that to your local mechanic and see how fast he tells you to get ****ed!
So OP I paid $650.
07-01-11, 11:31 AM
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I think both sides have valid points.
A shop is there to make money and to stay open and pay the mechanics they have to charge what they charge.
Some shops are worse than others though for sure. I prefer to go a friend that charges by the job, not by the hour.
A shop is there to make money and to stay open and pay the mechanics they have to charge what they charge.
Some shops are worse than others though for sure. I prefer to go a friend that charges by the job, not by the hour.
07-01-11, 01:47 PM
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I don't have much to chime in on, but it was decently easy on my 1uz swapped MKIII, but it didn't have any accessories on it.
Though I have done headers on a SC4 with auto tranny. It was much easier with the transmission off. He had to replace his torque converter anyway.
I think if I had to do the job again without taking out the transmission, I think $750 is pretty fair. Depending on what hte going rate of labor is over there.
Though I have done headers on a SC4 with auto tranny. It was much easier with the transmission off. He had to replace his torque converter anyway.
I think if I had to do the job again without taking out the transmission, I think $750 is pretty fair. Depending on what hte going rate of labor is over there.
07-01-11, 02:26 PM
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You should take it to a known performance shop and ask how much they want to for the job. Most "performance" shops asks big amounts of money, but if something goes wrong (in this case o2 and trans sensors) they simply wash their hands. It´s better to know who will repair your car (and if it´s open to some advice, better) than to pay some shop high dollars because of a big sign with "....motorsports" or "....racing" on it.
07-01-11, 08:02 PM
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No one ever has anything nice to say about mechanics when they do a good job, but have a high quote on something or try to follow the "rules" and everyone has a bandwagon.
I am a silent partner in a shop... but better believe if i found out my guys were "giving out discounts all the time" id flip out... You get paid to fix cars, not make friends. if you do good, fair work and charge a reasonable amount... and by reasonable I mean what it calls for... you will always have business. Cutting your own throat on a job will never get you ahead or pay the bills.
I am a silent partner in a shop... but better believe if i found out my guys were "giving out discounts all the time" id flip out... You get paid to fix cars, not make friends. if you do good, fair work and charge a reasonable amount... and by reasonable I mean what it calls for... you will always have business. Cutting your own throat on a job will never get you ahead or pay the bills.
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