Area51 Fabrication Supercharger kit for SC400 release date DEC/02-Jan/03
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Originally posted by lex400sc
Mustangs don't have big blocks. They have 281ci blocks, which are still 70ci shy of Chevy small blocks. In fact, Mustang engines are closer in size to to Lexus engines then drag engines. Try 540cis for a big block dragster.
300rwhp 4.0 V8 hardly qualifies for dragster material. That falls into the sports car category, which is exactly what we're trying to make it into. Even Jaguar uses stock superchargers. And in the aftermarket, BMW, Mercedes, and Acuras have more superchargers than turbos.
If you want to spend like $10,000 for 100rwhp, then buy a twin turbo kit, but I'll stick with a $5500 supercharger until I see a more practical ($$$) turbo system out there.
Mustangs don't have big blocks. They have 281ci blocks, which are still 70ci shy of Chevy small blocks. In fact, Mustang engines are closer in size to to Lexus engines then drag engines. Try 540cis for a big block dragster.
300rwhp 4.0 V8 hardly qualifies for dragster material. That falls into the sports car category, which is exactly what we're trying to make it into. Even Jaguar uses stock superchargers. And in the aftermarket, BMW, Mercedes, and Acuras have more superchargers than turbos.
If you want to spend like $10,000 for 100rwhp, then buy a twin turbo kit, but I'll stick with a $5500 supercharger until I see a more practical ($$$) turbo system out there.
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Supercharger is only really cheaper as it has lower performance potential. Something decent in the area of 400+rwhp would require fuel, ecu, ignition etc for both supercharger and turbo. Only real difference then is mounts vs manifolds price. I'll take the turbo any day. Why pay 6 to 7k (because that would be what it would cost by the time you're done) and stop at 330-350, when you can pay 8k to 10k and go to 550+ ?
I think a budget turbo kit could be made for barely more expensive than budget supercharger. Instead of blower+mounts+belts, you get log manifolds+turbo.. not much difference in price there... but easier to intercool.
Displacement is not the measure of big-block/small-block. The determining factor is distance between bore centers.
Low boost helps gas mileage? I've never heard of an aftermarket performance kit increasing mileage.. and neither has Corky Bell.
I think a budget turbo kit could be made for barely more expensive than budget supercharger. Instead of blower+mounts+belts, you get log manifolds+turbo.. not much difference in price there... but easier to intercool.
Displacement is not the measure of big-block/small-block. The determining factor is distance between bore centers.
Low boost helps gas mileage? I've never heard of an aftermarket performance kit increasing mileage.. and neither has Corky Bell.
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Originally posted by lexus_sc400_n20
What kind of nitrous kit did you order? I put a Nitrous Express kit in mine and i love it, none of those small crappy NOS solenoids. I have mine jetted at 100, i dynoed at 251 with the 75 jets in, estimate of 270 rwhp with 100 jets. After i put the 100 jets in i couldnt put the 75's back in! 13.9 @ 102
What kind of nitrous kit did you order? I put a Nitrous Express kit in mine and i love it, none of those small crappy NOS solenoids. I have mine jetted at 100, i dynoed at 251 with the 75 jets in, estimate of 270 rwhp with 100 jets. After i put the 100 jets in i couldnt put the 75's back in! 13.9 @ 102
As for the supercharger versus Turbocharger.
I wouldn't mind supercharger because it takes alot less piping than turbo (winternal gear(loud) contained unit(like ATI procharger or powerdyne) centrifugal SC) would be my choice for suprecharger.
I was also under the impression that centrifugal type supercharger behaves alot like a turbo.
Last edited by VSsc400; 01-29-03 at 09:59 AM.
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this sucks.
This was one of the reasons I wanted the SC, as stated above...I hope something comes through...guess I will have to get with my guys out here and do it myself.
This was one of the reasons I wanted the SC, as stated above...I hope something comes through...guess I will have to get with my guys out here and do it myself.
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I think a lot of big company dont see a market for the SC or the LS cars. That is why not too many company want to invest their resources into it.
I would say N2O would be the best bang for the buck, but if you want all out power, turbo will be the choice. I think Andy and Peter Scott is making a root style supercharger. This project seem to have direction and people are willing to pay for it. I think it will be less than $3,000. That is a hell of price. I hope that project will fly. I really like the root style supercharger. It give awesome low end torque and its easy to install.
Right now, their are two prototype twin turbos for the LS (mine was the first one
. Mine and V8huntr. He is making 350 rwhp with 4 psi. Tuning is the key. Currently i am making 324.5 rwhp non-intercooled. As far as turbos, it will cost a lot more especially Twin.
I would say N2O would be the best bang for the buck, but if you want all out power, turbo will be the choice. I think Andy and Peter Scott is making a root style supercharger. This project seem to have direction and people are willing to pay for it. I think it will be less than $3,000. That is a hell of price. I hope that project will fly. I really like the root style supercharger. It give awesome low end torque and its easy to install.
Right now, their are two prototype twin turbos for the LS (mine was the first one
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lextreme: you bring up a good point but the thing with area51 is that they already installed it on 3 SC4's but all of the sudden they won't do it anymore. what gives there? I would understand if the system was under developement and they called it quits, but they already have all the knowledge to do it.....
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