Turbo Install Project
#1
Turbo Install Project
Okay the car is finally under the knife getting the turbo installed. I will provide updates as they come along.
The car is a 1996 SC300
First of all the car has the following upgrades already:
Racing Hart C5s 18x8 all around
Supra TT rear calipers and cross-drilled, slotted, cad rotors - Fronts going on soon.
Supra TT Limited Slip Differential with half shafts
2800RPM stall torque converter
Custom tailpipes
KYB AGX Adjustable shocks
Eibach Pro Supra NA Springs
The turbo kit is basically an upgraded Stage II kit form Toyomoto to get it to the power it should get.
Stage II kit for SC300
440CC RC Injectors
Turbo TO4e
Exhaust Manifold
New Intake w/filter
Lexus LS400 MAF
Toyomoto Headgasket
Wastegate set at 6lbs
3" Downpipe
3" Midpipe
Warlbro fuel pump
Price $6500
Additions to complete the kit
Apexi S-AFC - $300 street
Apexi AVC-R - $500 street
Boost and A/F Ration Gauges - $150 street
ADFX Supra FMIC Intercooler 23x10x4.5 - $1600 street
Custom Piping - $???
In addition to that the following will be replaced on the car:
Water pump
Thermostat
Timing Belt
Idler Pully
Idler tensioner
Serpentine Belt
Sparkplugs
Ignition Rotors
Ignition Caps
All engine seals
Engine valves will be cleaned
Head will be sandblasted
Transmission cooler added
The engine will be cherry and the boost will start at 6psi and then go up 3 psi a month for 4 months.
Start date:
12/17/2002
The car is a 1996 SC300
First of all the car has the following upgrades already:
Racing Hart C5s 18x8 all around
Supra TT rear calipers and cross-drilled, slotted, cad rotors - Fronts going on soon.
Supra TT Limited Slip Differential with half shafts
2800RPM stall torque converter
Custom tailpipes
KYB AGX Adjustable shocks
Eibach Pro Supra NA Springs
The turbo kit is basically an upgraded Stage II kit form Toyomoto to get it to the power it should get.
Stage II kit for SC300
440CC RC Injectors
Turbo TO4e
Exhaust Manifold
New Intake w/filter
Lexus LS400 MAF
Toyomoto Headgasket
Wastegate set at 6lbs
3" Downpipe
3" Midpipe
Warlbro fuel pump
Price $6500
Additions to complete the kit
Apexi S-AFC - $300 street
Apexi AVC-R - $500 street
Boost and A/F Ration Gauges - $150 street
ADFX Supra FMIC Intercooler 23x10x4.5 - $1600 street
Custom Piping - $???
In addition to that the following will be replaced on the car:
Water pump
Thermostat
Timing Belt
Idler Pully
Idler tensioner
Serpentine Belt
Sparkplugs
Ignition Rotors
Ignition Caps
All engine seals
Engine valves will be cleaned
Head will be sandblasted
Transmission cooler added
The engine will be cherry and the boost will start at 6psi and then go up 3 psi a month for 4 months.
Start date:
12/17/2002
#3
fuel control with OBD II
Hermosa
I like your setup. You are doing to your '96 what I want to do to my '96.
One question. Is the SAFC sufficient fuel control for an OBD II car? When I spoke to Toyomoto (over a year ago) they indicated that I should put in $1,500 worth of additional fuel control.
I have a SAFC currently and the OBD II seems to be playing games that reduce the gains from the SAFC
I like your setup. You are doing to your '96 what I want to do to my '96.
One question. Is the SAFC sufficient fuel control for an OBD II car? When I spoke to Toyomoto (over a year ago) they indicated that I should put in $1,500 worth of additional fuel control.
I have a SAFC currently and the OBD II seems to be playing games that reduce the gains from the SAFC
#4
Re: fuel control with OBD II
Originally posted by JKAG
Hermosa
I like your setup. You are doing to your '96 what I want to do to my '96.
One question. Is the SAFC sufficient fuel control for an OBD II car? When I spoke to Toyomoto (over a year ago) they indicated that I should put in $1,500 worth of additional fuel control.
I have a SAFC currently and the OBD II seems to be playing games that reduce the gains from the SAFC
Hermosa
I like your setup. You are doing to your '96 what I want to do to my '96.
One question. Is the SAFC sufficient fuel control for an OBD II car? When I spoke to Toyomoto (over a year ago) they indicated that I should put in $1,500 worth of additional fuel control.
I have a SAFC currently and the OBD II seems to be playing games that reduce the gains from the SAFC
Last edited by Hermosa; 12-18-02 at 04:06 PM.
#5
If I'm thinking what you're thinking...
If I'm thinking what you're thinking... then I think you should check if 440 CC injectors is enough. You may want to get 550cc which is the next stage up (I've never heard of injectors inbetween).
#6
I was disappointed when I saw the 440CC injectors too. I was sure I would get 550s. If I had know they would send me 440s I would have told them to spend the extra couple bucks for the upgrade. The difference is negligable especially in comparison to the price of labor to install them.
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#8
Yeah they sent me the LS400 MAF. I hoped for so much more in the kit. The IS300 Stage II kit comes with all the goodies. If I knew the SC300 kit was so stripped down I wouldn't have gotten it. There is an easy $3000 markup on the SC kit since they drop most of the components inthe IS300 kit. The Stage II SC kit is probably good for around 300RWHP before you have to buy additionial parts. My gripe which still stands is that the kit promises 450RWHP but the kit does not deliver. You have to buy extra equipment to take it there so the kit is not complete.
For the price the Stage II should come with the Haltech, the MSD and larger injectors. Then we are talking about meeting the promises of the kit as well as it being worth the money and wait.
In hindsight I would get:
Exhaust manifold
downpipe
midpipe
headgasket
That's it. Everything else can be custom. They could sell those like hotcakes and even charge $1500 for it.
That said and done when I get everything together I might try to put together a bargain kit (but still quality) since I am starting to understand how everything works. I would only make such a kit if I were sure it was reliable and if I could promise quick delivery.
For the price the Stage II should come with the Haltech, the MSD and larger injectors. Then we are talking about meeting the promises of the kit as well as it being worth the money and wait.
In hindsight I would get:
Exhaust manifold
downpipe
midpipe
headgasket
That's it. Everything else can be custom. They could sell those like hotcakes and even charge $1500 for it.
That said and done when I get everything together I might try to put together a bargain kit (but still quality) since I am starting to understand how everything works. I would only make such a kit if I were sure it was reliable and if I could promise quick delivery.
#10
Hermosa,
Congrats on taking the plunge! I've been thinking about going the Toyomoto route for awhile now. I've haven't done so because I've had the same reservations as you. I hadn't looked at the IS300 kit, so I didn't realize what a difference there was. Why on earth would they do that? Seems like they're just trying to soak the SC owners
I'm leaning towards doing a custom setup. The big snag seems to be getting a decent exhaust manifold. Seems like Toyomoto has that locked up (part of their master plan???).
Please keep us informed. I for one shall be anxiously awaiting your updates!
Best of luck!!
Congrats on taking the plunge! I've been thinking about going the Toyomoto route for awhile now. I've haven't done so because I've had the same reservations as you. I hadn't looked at the IS300 kit, so I didn't realize what a difference there was. Why on earth would they do that? Seems like they're just trying to soak the SC owners
I'm leaning towards doing a custom setup. The big snag seems to be getting a decent exhaust manifold. Seems like Toyomoto has that locked up (part of their master plan???).
Please keep us informed. I for one shall be anxiously awaiting your updates!
Best of luck!!
Last edited by wmulli; 12-21-02 at 12:29 AM.
#12
Originally posted by wmulli
I'm leaning towards doing a custom setup. The big snag seems to be getting a decent exhaust manifold. Seems like Toyomoto has that locked up (part of their master plan???).
Please keep us informed. I for one shall be anxiously awaiting your updates!
Best of luck!!
I'm leaning towards doing a custom setup. The big snag seems to be getting a decent exhaust manifold. Seems like Toyomoto has that locked up (part of their master plan???).
Please keep us informed. I for one shall be anxiously awaiting your updates!
Best of luck!!
-Steve
#13
Originally posted by Hermosa
There is an easy $3000 markup on the SC kit since they drop most of the components inthe IS300 kit.
There is an easy $3000 markup on the SC kit since they drop most of the components inthe IS300 kit.
after i get my certs in personal training; i dunno what i'm gonna do; but i sure hope by that time someone has copied the Toyomoto manifold; because its a VERY simple log-style manifold
#15
The pics of the Toyomoto manifolds I've seen were all equal length, tubular works of art! Maybe the have a cheaper (cast) version?
Also, I heard of lot of folks on this forum saying the FMAX manifolds were poorly produced and suffered from cracking?!? Anybody got the DEFINITIVE answer?
Also, does anybody know what FMAX gets for their manifolds?
Also, I heard of lot of folks on this forum saying the FMAX manifolds were poorly produced and suffered from cracking?!? Anybody got the DEFINITIVE answer?
Also, does anybody know what FMAX gets for their manifolds?
Last edited by wmulli; 12-24-02 at 01:54 AM.