s362 vs pte 6266
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Glad the OP made this thread. I'm also quite new to the wonderful world of turbos. Jostar commented on this thread early on, and he's a good (and very knowledgeable) buddy of mine. I also live near SP, and everybody I know runs PTE. Jostar has on on his MKIII, another good buddy has an old school GTS 1J MKIII (made 726whp!) and a third has a MKIV that made 700whp on a 6766. None of them had issues with failures that I know of. Having said that, it's been sad watching and hearing arguments where both sides are not represented and it's hard for me to make a decision on my upcoming build since most vendors push their product without giving much props to the other side...
PTE is on a LOT of high HP cars. People say they fail a lot but I'm guessing a part of it is if you have a lot of product on the market, you have a higher probability of a unit failing. No stats to back that up, just observation. I also live near SP and there is no doubt they are in the pocket of PTE. Having said that, when my friends PTE took a **** (at this point it seems a foreign object went through compressor housing, not turbo failure) we sent it to Boostlab for inspection since Kirk was nice enough to communicate via email and offer free inspection. He took it apart completely, said "Not rebuildable, looks like foreign object damage, tough ****, I can offer you a good deal on a BW though." and sent it back in a BW box...COMPLETELY UNASSEMBLED. Said due to damage was not rebuildable and he couldn't put it back together.
We brought it to SP who sent it back to PTE who did inspection for free and offered to rebuild it. My friend declined, bought a new PTE, and PTE still assembled it and sent it back. Maybe that's because we went through SP so as a vendor they get better customer service? I don't know, that's just one story of many people can use.
Myself, I'll probably go with a BWS366. The combination of price (****ing $625 shipped!), reliability and consistent ability to put down solid power numbers just wins over. I'm a regular guy with a regular job that just wants a fun turbo (LOVE the sound!) that has been proven to make power. To each their own.
PTE is on a LOT of high HP cars. People say they fail a lot but I'm guessing a part of it is if you have a lot of product on the market, you have a higher probability of a unit failing. No stats to back that up, just observation. I also live near SP and there is no doubt they are in the pocket of PTE. Having said that, when my friends PTE took a **** (at this point it seems a foreign object went through compressor housing, not turbo failure) we sent it to Boostlab for inspection since Kirk was nice enough to communicate via email and offer free inspection. He took it apart completely, said "Not rebuildable, looks like foreign object damage, tough ****, I can offer you a good deal on a BW though." and sent it back in a BW box...COMPLETELY UNASSEMBLED. Said due to damage was not rebuildable and he couldn't put it back together.
We brought it to SP who sent it back to PTE who did inspection for free and offered to rebuild it. My friend declined, bought a new PTE, and PTE still assembled it and sent it back. Maybe that's because we went through SP so as a vendor they get better customer service? I don't know, that's just one story of many people can use.
Myself, I'll probably go with a BWS366. The combination of price (****ing $625 shipped!), reliability and consistent ability to put down solid power numbers just wins over. I'm a regular guy with a regular job that just wants a fun turbo (LOVE the sound!) that has been proven to make power. To each their own.
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Glad the OP made this thread. I'm also quite new to the wonderful world of turbos. Jostar commented on this thread early on, and he's a good (and very knowledgeable) buddy of mine. I also live near SP, and everybody I know runs PTE. Jostar has on on his MKIII, another good buddy has an old school GTS 1J MKIII (made 726whp!) and a third has a MKIV that made 700whp on a 6766. None of them had issues with failures that I know of. Having said that, it's been sad watching and hearing arguments where both sides are not represented and it's hard for me to make a decision on my upcoming build since most vendors push their product without giving much props to the other side...
PTE is on a LOT of high HP cars. People say they fail a lot but I'm guessing a part of it is if you have a lot of product on the market, you have a higher probability of a unit failing. No stats to back that up, just observation. I also live near SP and there is no doubt they are in the pocket of PTE. Having said that, when my friends PTE took a **** (at this point it seems a foreign object went through compressor housing, not turbo failure) we sent it to Boostlab for inspection since Kirk was nice enough to communicate via email and offer free inspection. He took it apart completely, said "Not rebuildable, looks like foreign object damage, tough ****, I can offer you a good deal on a BW though." and sent it back in a BW box...COMPLETELY UNASSEMBLED. Said due to damage was not rebuildable and he couldn't put it back together.
We brought it to SP who sent it back to PTE who did inspection for free and offered to rebuild it. My friend declined, bought a new PTE, and PTE still assembled it and sent it back. Maybe that's because we went through SP so as a vendor they get better customer service? I don't know, that's just one story of many people can use.
Myself, I'll probably go with a BWS366. The combination of price (****ing $625 shipped!), reliability and consistent ability to put down solid power numbers just wins over. I'm a regular guy with a regular job that just wants a fun turbo (LOVE the sound!) that has been proven to make power. To each their own.
PTE is on a LOT of high HP cars. People say they fail a lot but I'm guessing a part of it is if you have a lot of product on the market, you have a higher probability of a unit failing. No stats to back that up, just observation. I also live near SP and there is no doubt they are in the pocket of PTE. Having said that, when my friends PTE took a **** (at this point it seems a foreign object went through compressor housing, not turbo failure) we sent it to Boostlab for inspection since Kirk was nice enough to communicate via email and offer free inspection. He took it apart completely, said "Not rebuildable, looks like foreign object damage, tough ****, I can offer you a good deal on a BW though." and sent it back in a BW box...COMPLETELY UNASSEMBLED. Said due to damage was not rebuildable and he couldn't put it back together.
We brought it to SP who sent it back to PTE who did inspection for free and offered to rebuild it. My friend declined, bought a new PTE, and PTE still assembled it and sent it back. Maybe that's because we went through SP so as a vendor they get better customer service? I don't know, that's just one story of many people can use.
Myself, I'll probably go with a BWS366. The combination of price (****ing $625 shipped!), reliability and consistent ability to put down solid power numbers just wins over. I'm a regular guy with a regular job that just wants a fun turbo (LOVE the sound!) that has been proven to make power. To each their own.
its weird how 1 shop said it wasn't repairable, but the other said it was. that seems a little off...
it seems like every high hp car at the strip runs precision turbos.
but the strip and street driving are completely different.
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just a random thought, since im about to pull the trigger on the s362
is it beneficial to get the 90 degree elbow one? or just to get the straight outlet?
what is easier for the intercooler piping?
is it beneficial to get the 90 degree elbow one? or just to get the straight outlet?
what is easier for the intercooler piping?
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Just wanted to share an experience a friend of mine had which makes me think it can all be luck sometimes.
Ford diesel turbo friend, buys a brand new BW from BW and cruises it to a Spurs game here in SA. As he's leaving the Spurs game to a restaurant he does ONE pull and the turbo went to shreds. It was basically a drop in replacement for his previous BW which was only smaller. He got a new one already and it has not blown up but just saying. I think it can happen to any brand of turbo. It's happened to PTE owners and also BW owners.
Ford diesel turbo friend, buys a brand new BW from BW and cruises it to a Spurs game here in SA. As he's leaving the Spurs game to a restaurant he does ONE pull and the turbo went to shreds. It was basically a drop in replacement for his previous BW which was only smaller. He got a new one already and it has not blown up but just saying. I think it can happen to any brand of turbo. It's happened to PTE owners and also BW owners.
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Either way you most likely need to add a spacer to your turbo manifold...I needed a 1/2" spacer to get the compressor housing from touching runner #1 on manifold...The compressor housing are really big on BW
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On my 61mm S300 I sawed off the thick outlet and welded on a 90. I didn't have to run a spacer, but there's definitely a limit at which you cannot clock the housing any further.
Clears
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1301527070
Hits
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1301527070
Fatty outlet chopped off
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1305433984
Best pic I could find of it with the 90* welded on
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/att...0-sam_0700.jpg
As CatMan said, these turbos are large and beefy. You'll see what I've dubbed "das ghetto bend" that I had to do for the Throttle Body to clear the exhaust housing. So if you don't plan on running an FFIM, you may run into the same issue.
Clears
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1301527070
Hits
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1301527070
Fatty outlet chopped off
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1305433984
Best pic I could find of it with the 90* welded on
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/att...0-sam_0700.jpg
As CatMan said, these turbos are large and beefy. You'll see what I've dubbed "das ghetto bend" that I had to do for the Throttle Body to clear the exhaust housing. So if you don't plan on running an FFIM, you may run into the same issue.
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