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Old 09-28-20, 05:45 AM
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I'm showing the 30A AM2/60A main big plastic fuses, 30a blade INJ and 30a blade efi in the underhood box, and INJ (engine) 7.5a fuse (#5 )in the kick panel box as being in the ecu power circuit. Anything else I should be looking at ?
All of these fuses have been verified via multimeter and appear to have good connections underneath the underhood junction box. Driver side and passenger side cam sensors test within spec, 1105 and 1085 respectively. Whats next gents ? 😔
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Interesting development, with no cel key on, and i force the car to start via jumping the starting relay it runs horribly......exactly the same as I unplugged my afm while it was still running. Coincidence? The service manual is a little vague about resistance testing the afm, shows the connector but actually shows the multimeter probes on the afm prongs themselves in a specific negative positive orientation.....in which case mine fails miserably. Reverse the leads and the result gets better .....but still well out of specification. Any chance a dead maf will cause no cel on startup? Someone go unplug theirs real fast and check 🤣🤣. Just trying to provide information as I get it,irrelevant or not.Thanks guys.
Old 09-28-20, 08:46 AM
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Unplugged sensors dont cause a no cell. A short or melted internal sensor can for example if a positive wire was exposed touching a ground it could cause the weird problems. have inspected the cam and crank wires? Also you can start the car and start unplugging sensors one by one if there is no change that sensor isnt working properly
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Originally Posted by SexCoupe
Unplugged sensors dont cause a no cell. A short or melted internal sensor can for example if a positive wire was exposed touching a ground it could cause the weird problems. have inspected the cam and crank wires? Also you can start the car and start unplugging sensors one by one if there is no change that sensor isnt working properly
Cam and crank wires appear fine. Well my maf isn't doing much at all. Car runs with or without it exactly the same 😅 not sure which problem is causing which symptom.
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Ok who evers car you Put your ecu into see if you can use their ECU in your car for a day. I think tannin missed a spot. These cars a way too simple for all of this.
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Ok who evers car you Put your ecu into see if you can use their ECU in your car for a day. I think tannin missed a spot. These cars a way too simple for all of this.
their car was broken down......for a bad ecu. Still recommend a send back?
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is it a shop or friend or what? see if you can try it in their car a few times. if its a shop and the ecu works fine in their car consistantly then try to get parts from it.. Also did you check the 2 plugs/wires by the front fuel injector on the driverside and the IACV wires?
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Originally Posted by SexCoupe
is it a shop or friend or what? see if you can try it in their car a few times. if its a shop and the ecu works fine in their car consistantly then try to get parts from it.. Also did you check the 2 plugs/wires by the front fuel injector on the driverside and the IACV wires?
Random guy I messaged on Facebook marketplace who was selling his car. Drove out about 3 hours to meet....and his car is definitely running now she he might nor enjoy the visit anymore..


I did not check those. Im assuminf just looking for frayed wiring ? I did a pretty good look over this morning when I pulled the fusebox up. Was really hoping to find anything really.
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look for broken or frayed or corroded/green powder wiring. the plugs by the fuel injector are for the cam/crank sensors. you could check continuity there also.
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Tried to a junkyard maf(just for fun) , no luck there.
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