2jz-gte jap spec on US gs?
05-29-04, 08:50 AM
#17
Originally posted by GlobeCLK
I think that's because the GTE stuff was either from a SUPRA or an ARISTO going into an IS. The IS/Altezza never had the GTE stuff, which means ALOT of things need to be fabricated.
Now if the clip is from an ARISTO V300, going into a GS300, then that would be alot easier than trying to cram the stuff into an IS300. The V300 clip with engine/ECU/tranny and stuff are designed for the JZS chassis in the first place. SXE IS300 chassis would be less matching.
I think that's because the GTE stuff was either from a SUPRA or an ARISTO going into an IS. The IS/Altezza never had the GTE stuff, which means ALOT of things need to be fabricated.
Now if the clip is from an ARISTO V300, going into a GS300, then that would be alot easier than trying to cram the stuff into an IS300. The V300 clip with engine/ECU/tranny and stuff are designed for the JZS chassis in the first place. SXE IS300 chassis would be less matching.
05-29-04, 12:14 PM
#18
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by GlobeCLK
USDM 2JZ-GTE ends in 1998, and none has VVTi. JDM GTEs have VVT-i from 97+, if it's a clip from 93~96 Aristos or Supras then there's no VVT-i either.
If you swap in a JDM engine, I think if you have broken internal parts, just replace with JDM internal parts from tuners. That's what RB26 skyline people do. When something breaks, they don't worry about replacing with stock parts, you beef it up with JUN or other parts
USDM 2JZ-GTE ends in 1998, and none has VVTi. JDM GTEs have VVT-i from 97+, if it's a clip from 93~96 Aristos or Supras then there's no VVT-i either.
If you swap in a JDM engine, I think if you have broken internal parts, just replace with JDM internal parts from tuners. That's what RB26 skyline people do. When something breaks, they don't worry about replacing with stock parts, you beef it up with JUN or other parts
05-30-04, 10:13 AM
#19
Lexus Champion
Originally posted by Blue98Gs3
Ok, I understand the whole VVT-i thing, but what about the internals of the actual engine. I've heard from some, the JDM has smaller cams, turbos.... Is any of this true?
Ok, I understand the whole VVT-i thing, but what about the internals of the actual engine. I've heard from some, the JDM has smaller cams, turbos.... Is any of this true?
JDM gets 440cc injectors, you get 540cc injectors. We get ceramic turbos (prone to self-destruct with bad fuel), you get steel turbos (much stronger), we get 280hp, you get 320hp.
05-30-04, 10:17 AM
#20
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by jtanoyo1
Not smaller, different.
JDM gets 440cc injectors, you get 540cc injectors. We get ceramic turbos (prone to self-destruct with bad fuel), you get steel turbos (much stronger), we get 280hp, you get 320hp.
Not smaller, different.
JDM gets 440cc injectors, you get 540cc injectors. We get ceramic turbos (prone to self-destruct with bad fuel), you get steel turbos (much stronger), we get 280hp, you get 320hp.
05-30-04, 08:39 PM
#21
Originally posted by Blue98Gs3
Ah, so all thats different is the injectors, which can be swapped easy, and the turbo's, which can also be swapped easy with a set of hks twin turbo's....
Ah, so all thats different is the injectors, which can be swapped easy, and the turbo's, which can also be swapped easy with a set of hks twin turbo's....
I personally would look for the V300 from 2000+. Other than being legal (aftermarket bolt-ons are easy to take care of. But being legal when registering the new engine is more important), I think an Aristo is better with Aristo parts.
05-30-04, 09:09 PM
#22
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by GlobeCLK
if being legal isn't what you're aiming for then a USDM Supra TT swap should be ideal for you. Easy to find the motor, easy to find parts for it, and you can go with the 6 speed
I personally would look for the V300 from 2000+. Other than being legal (aftermarket bolt-ons are easy to take care of. But being legal when registering the new engine is more important), I think an Aristo is better with Aristo parts.
if being legal isn't what you're aiming for then a USDM Supra TT swap should be ideal for you. Easy to find the motor, easy to find parts for it, and you can go with the 6 speed
I personally would look for the V300 from 2000+. Other than being legal (aftermarket bolt-ons are easy to take care of. But being legal when registering the new engine is more important), I think an Aristo is better with Aristo parts.
05-31-04, 03:16 AM
#23
Lexus Fanatic
Originally posted by Blue98Gs3
Well, I'd actually like to be legal. Where can you find the engine? All I find is Jspec 2jz's
Well, I'd actually like to be legal. Where can you find the engine? All I find is Jspec 2jz's
05-31-04, 09:55 AM
#24
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Richie
The V300 engine is a Jap spec 2JZ-GTE with the auto tranny from the Aristo.
The V300 engine is a Jap spec 2JZ-GTE with the auto tranny from the Aristo.
05-31-04, 11:13 AM
#25
Originally posted by Blue98Gs3
Right, I need to find one with 6-spd. Anyone know any good sources for a us engine?
Right, I need to find one with 6-spd. Anyone know any good sources for a us engine?
05-31-04, 11:21 AM
#26
Lexus Champion
Going turbo is not legal anyway. But if someting happen and they check your engine, you will be in big big trouble.
JPI
QUOTE]Originally posted by GlobeCLK
there are no 2JZ-GTEs in US spec that's newer than 1998. The law states that in order for the swap to be legal, the engine needs to be newer than the car itself. So if you want a 6-speed 2JZ-GTE and be legal, you might need to find a JDM 99+ Supra clip (those were made until 2001) [/QUOTE]
JPI
QUOTE]Originally posted by GlobeCLK
there are no 2JZ-GTEs in US spec that's newer than 1998. The law states that in order for the swap to be legal, the engine needs to be newer than the car itself. So if you want a 6-speed 2JZ-GTE and be legal, you might need to find a JDM 99+ Supra clip (those were made until 2001) [/QUOTE]
05-31-04, 12:11 PM
#27
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by JPI
Going turbo is not legal anyway. But if someting happen and they check your engine, you will be in big big trouble.
JPI
QUOTE]Originally posted by GlobeCLK
there are no 2JZ-GTEs in US spec that's newer than 1998. The law states that in order for the swap to be legal, the engine needs to be newer than the car itself. So if you want a 6-speed 2JZ-GTE and be legal, you might need to find a JDM 99+ Supra clip (those were made until 2001)
Going turbo is not legal anyway. But if someting happen and they check your engine, you will be in big big trouble.
JPI
QUOTE]Originally posted by GlobeCLK
there are no 2JZ-GTEs in US spec that's newer than 1998. The law states that in order for the swap to be legal, the engine needs to be newer than the car itself. So if you want a 6-speed 2JZ-GTE and be legal, you might need to find a JDM 99+ Supra clip (those were made until 2001)
Huh? I know an aftermarket turbo isnt legal, but if you swapped in a supra engine that already had twin turbos, wouldnt it be legal?
05-31-04, 08:46 PM
#29
Originally posted by JPI
Going turbo is not legal anyway. But if someting happen and they check your engine, you will be in big big trouble.
Going turbo is not legal anyway. But if someting happen and they check your engine, you will be in big big trouble.
But hey most Supras with BPUs are not street legal anyways. Just know a few people in the smog business and your smogtest is taken care of. My main concern is getting the actual swap to be legal, which can be done with a 2JZ-GTE.
Originally posted by Blue98Gs3
Huh? I know an aftermarket turbo isnt legal, but if you swapped in a supra engine that already had twin turbos, wouldnt it be legal?
Huh? I know an aftermarket turbo isnt legal, but if you swapped in a supra engine that already had twin turbos, wouldnt it be legal?
Last edited by GlobeCLK; 05-31-04 at 08:46 PM.