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Power increases look great!
How do the headers effect exhaust SOUND? One complaint with my cat-back setup (still on the stock manifolds) is that the exhaust note isn't well defined -- kind of like you can't hear the individual cylinder pulses the way you can in a beautiful-sounding exhaust like a Ferrari or some such vehicle where the engineers have paid attention to the sound quality. So, I'm wondering if the headers significantly improve the exhaust sound in that regard???
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How do the headers effect exhaust SOUND? One complaint with my cat-back setup (still on the stock manifolds) is that the exhaust note isn't well defined -- kind of like you can't hear the individual cylinder pulses the way you can in a beautiful-sounding exhaust like a Ferrari or some such vehicle where the engineers have paid attention to the sound quality. So, I'm wondering if the headers significantly improve the exhaust sound in that regard???
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Brand "F" doesn't do V8s the way that most do; they have a 180 degree, or flat crankshafts which gives the cars a raspy sound like two four cylinders coupled together.
I've heard some pretty nice sounding Mustangs that sound like our cars with modified exhausts however.
Glad the project worked out, I wasn't very impressed with the Aussie headers given the hassle for US people to get them and all.
I've heard some pretty nice sounding Mustangs that sound like our cars with modified exhausts however.
Glad the project worked out, I wasn't very impressed with the Aussie headers given the hassle for US people to get them and all.
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Originally Posted by trbopooh
Just got the headers installed. Started at 10am and finished at 4:30pm due to some unforseen issues. Had to take out the cat because of an exhaust leak. Made my car sound like a pinto. We had to pull the cats out and shave off a portion of the outer ring where the gasket went. The manufacturer didn't put a recess into the flange where it attaches to the cat causing the gasket not to seat correctly. You could either shave the ring like I did or just get a flat gasket instead of using the factory one. Car seems to shift smoother in the lower rpm range. Noise is barely noticeable. I have axle back blitz exhausts and K&N FIPK intake. Car seems to come alive when you floor it. From around 3000 to tranny shift point, car pulls harder. I definitely noticed it when driving home on the freeway. My initial impressions is that the headers do make the car drive better overall. Of course I don't plan to stay NA, so that's where I think I'll see the most gains. A big thanks to John, aka jbrady!!!
A big shout out the Teddy at Dynamic Auto for doing to install.
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I forgot to ask you do you know if your installer removed the engine mounts to do your header in stall??
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Yes, I had to unbolt the engine mounts to get to the headers more easily. Wound up finding out that engine mounts were bad and needed to be replaced. They looked very similar to lexolife's engine mounts. Now the car doesn't shake and feel jumpy while shifting.
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Got my 1994 SC400 back from the shop last Friday after having the headers installed along with a 2.25" exhaust system. Also, had the T/C changed, LSD installed and the Apexi S-AFC tuned on their dyno. Picked up 15 hp and 2 pounds of torque and the power band is much wider and smoother now.
However, the car has a horrible exhaust resonance problem - well, I think it's horrible, everyone else thinks it sounds perfect. Anyway, the car will be going back in once the additional hangers, brackets and different mufflers come in. Also, I think there is a vacuum leak related to the EGR removal that may be holding back the motor some.
I saw the dyno sheets for the GS with N/A, but what HP and Torque improvement have N/A applications realized from the headers?
However, the car has a horrible exhaust resonance problem - well, I think it's horrible, everyone else thinks it sounds perfect. Anyway, the car will be going back in once the additional hangers, brackets and different mufflers come in. Also, I think there is a vacuum leak related to the EGR removal that may be holding back the motor some.
I saw the dyno sheets for the GS with N/A, but what HP and Torque improvement have N/A applications realized from the headers?
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Originally Posted by SC & RX
Got my 1994 SC400 back from the shop last Friday after having the headers installed along with a 2.25" exhaust system. Also, had the T/C changed, LSD installed and the Apexi S-AFC tuned on their dyno. Picked up 15 hp and 2 pounds of torque and the power band is much wider and smoother now.
However, the car has a horrible exhaust resonance problem - well, I think it's horrible, everyone else thinks it sounds perfect. Anyway, the car will be going back in once the additional hangers, brackets and different mufflers come in. Also, I think there is a vacuum leak related to the EGR removal that may be holding back the motor some.
I saw the dyno sheets for the GS with N/A, but what HP and Torque improvement have N/A applications realized from the headers?
However, the car has a horrible exhaust resonance problem - well, I think it's horrible, everyone else thinks it sounds perfect. Anyway, the car will be going back in once the additional hangers, brackets and different mufflers come in. Also, I think there is a vacuum leak related to the EGR removal that may be holding back the motor some.
I saw the dyno sheets for the GS with N/A, but what HP and Torque improvement have N/A applications realized from the headers?
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I will try to remember to bring the dyno sheet into the office to scan and post tomorrow. By the way, I was at 195 HP max before the new mods.
I had my digital camera with me every time I went to visit the car. When I was finally able to pick it up they had it sitting on the ground already. Then when I went back to check out the resonance I did not have it with me. However, I will certainly get pics when they lift it up to put on the new stuff. The mechanic said the high stall T/C is hiding some of the HP increase, but I had not heard of that happening before.
They did do an incredible job fabricating the exhaust system using mandrel bent 2.25" SS pipe sections and TIG welding. The system has a flex pipe between each header exit flange and Carsound cat, then the pipes go smoothly into a Magnaflow "X" pipe. When they exit the "X" pipe they go into Magnaflow resonators then branch off to each side where they finally flow through the (currently) Borla straight through mufflers. There was a twin turbo 350Z show car on a rack there that had an Invidia exhaust system and most of the welds on mine looked better than his did.
There is a strange hissing sound coming from the left side, but we cannot find any trace of a leak. So I took it to another tuner shop that does MIG welding and they first thought it was an OEM job, when they realized it wasn't they then said it was an awesome job and could not find a leak either. I think the hissing is a vacuum leak that is causing the power to not be as strong as it should be. I am going to email Lextreme for the EGR install instructions today so I can check out to make sure everything was put back right.
Also, under hard acceleration I am hitting the rev limiter before the transmission shifts to second. Any ideas here?
I had my digital camera with me every time I went to visit the car. When I was finally able to pick it up they had it sitting on the ground already. Then when I went back to check out the resonance I did not have it with me. However, I will certainly get pics when they lift it up to put on the new stuff. The mechanic said the high stall T/C is hiding some of the HP increase, but I had not heard of that happening before.
They did do an incredible job fabricating the exhaust system using mandrel bent 2.25" SS pipe sections and TIG welding. The system has a flex pipe between each header exit flange and Carsound cat, then the pipes go smoothly into a Magnaflow "X" pipe. When they exit the "X" pipe they go into Magnaflow resonators then branch off to each side where they finally flow through the (currently) Borla straight through mufflers. There was a twin turbo 350Z show car on a rack there that had an Invidia exhaust system and most of the welds on mine looked better than his did.
There is a strange hissing sound coming from the left side, but we cannot find any trace of a leak. So I took it to another tuner shop that does MIG welding and they first thought it was an OEM job, when they realized it wasn't they then said it was an awesome job and could not find a leak either. I think the hissing is a vacuum leak that is causing the power to not be as strong as it should be. I am going to email Lextreme for the EGR install instructions today so I can check out to make sure everything was put back right.
Also, under hard acceleration I am hitting the rev limiter before the transmission shifts to second. Any ideas here?
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Thanks for the tip, I was hoping to not have to do that b/c my engine compartment is detailed perfect. Could spraying the cleaner take the paint off or mottle it? I was going to have them use an unlit propane torch - probably more dangerous for the whole vehicle I realize, but at least it will go out with a bang if something goes wrong.
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I beleive your rev limited problem in 1st is due to your TC and 3.76 LSD.
I think someone lowered the stall speed and resolved this. Otherwise you'll need to either get rid of the rev limit, remove the 3.76 unit and use the stock 3.23 with the TRD gears, or toss the TC or the 3.76/LSD completely.
I think someone lowered the stall speed and resolved this. Otherwise you'll need to either get rid of the rev limit, remove the 3.76 unit and use the stock 3.23 with the TRD gears, or toss the TC or the 3.76/LSD completely.
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I will try to remember to bring the dyno sheet into the office to scan and post tomorrow. By the way, I was at 195 HP max before the new mods.
I had my digital camera with me every time I went to visit the car. When I was finally able to pick it up they had it sitting on the ground already. Then when I went back to check out the resonance I did not have it with me. However, I will certainly get pics when they lift it up to put on the new stuff. The mechanic said the high stall T/C is hiding some of the HP increase, but I had not heard of that happening before.
Also, under hard acceleration I am hitting the rev limiter before the transmission shifts to second. Any ideas here?
I had my digital camera with me every time I went to visit the car. When I was finally able to pick it up they had it sitting on the ground already. Then when I went back to check out the resonance I did not have it with me. However, I will certainly get pics when they lift it up to put on the new stuff. The mechanic said the high stall T/C is hiding some of the HP increase, but I had not heard of that happening before.
Also, under hard acceleration I am hitting the rev limiter before the transmission shifts to second. Any ideas here?