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Originally Posted by 3dog
Just the usual sways. coilovers, the toms stuff. 3.76 LSD and a 2800 stall TC
3dog
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Last edited by GILLEXUS; 11-05-06 at 10:26 AM.
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Originally Posted by 3dog
I've just got to chime in here.
Last April I bought a RMM Supercharger off another member here.
Cost $4000 and included injectors, BOV, and Apexi SAFC2
I had it installed by RMM in Huntington Beach Calif, that meant I had to
drive from Seattle to So Cal to get this done. Stayed with relatives in SO Cal
Cost of install was $1000
Next I took car over XS Engineering also in Huntington Beach and had them install the Apexi SAFC2 and
tune the car. I think this was about $450.
Started out with 227 rwhp I had a dyno done here in Seattle
After SC install and tuning dyno'ed at 360 rwhp
Then I went over to California Performance Transmission and had the Valve Body upgrade on the tranny. They are also in Huntington Beach and the owner Art Carr is in the Hot Rod hall of fame. Cost of this was around $400.
Total cost about $6,000
I stayed with the 3.33 pulley and am very happy.
Seems that everyone wants to hit 400 hp and everyone ends up with the belt slipping.
360 hp at the rear wheels is plenty fun.
Car is set to run a little on the rich side so sometimes there is a puff a black smoke.
Well I don't see that for long.
Would I do it again.
Hell Yes I Would!
There are very few cars that you can buy that do 0-60 in 4.5-5 sec
I know the new Vette is faster but that would cost me way more than $6000 and then I would not be riding around in the comfort of a Lexus.
Okay you ask what problems I have had.
I needed a new tensioner pulley, the bearings were making some noise.
Also the intake hose got a small hole in it from something rubbing on it.
And my mech. noticed some small cracks in the belt, so
I had all of those parts replaced.
Total cost of the 3 parts $85.00
I also replaced my tires as some of the rubber disappeared somewhere
Oh and around town where I get on it constantly I get 12 mpg
Out on the freeway I get 20-22mpg.
I have not had any tranny problems and this is my everyday car.
3dog
Last April I bought a RMM Supercharger off another member here.
Cost $4000 and included injectors, BOV, and Apexi SAFC2
I had it installed by RMM in Huntington Beach Calif, that meant I had to
drive from Seattle to So Cal to get this done. Stayed with relatives in SO Cal
Cost of install was $1000
Next I took car over XS Engineering also in Huntington Beach and had them install the Apexi SAFC2 and
tune the car. I think this was about $450.
Started out with 227 rwhp I had a dyno done here in Seattle
After SC install and tuning dyno'ed at 360 rwhp
Then I went over to California Performance Transmission and had the Valve Body upgrade on the tranny. They are also in Huntington Beach and the owner Art Carr is in the Hot Rod hall of fame. Cost of this was around $400.
Total cost about $6,000
I stayed with the 3.33 pulley and am very happy.
Seems that everyone wants to hit 400 hp and everyone ends up with the belt slipping.
360 hp at the rear wheels is plenty fun.
Car is set to run a little on the rich side so sometimes there is a puff a black smoke.
Well I don't see that for long.
Would I do it again.
Hell Yes I Would!
There are very few cars that you can buy that do 0-60 in 4.5-5 sec
I know the new Vette is faster but that would cost me way more than $6000 and then I would not be riding around in the comfort of a Lexus.
Okay you ask what problems I have had.
I needed a new tensioner pulley, the bearings were making some noise.
Also the intake hose got a small hole in it from something rubbing on it.
And my mech. noticed some small cracks in the belt, so
I had all of those parts replaced.
Total cost of the 3 parts $85.00
I also replaced my tires as some of the rubber disappeared somewhere
Oh and around town where I get on it constantly I get 12 mpg
Out on the freeway I get 20-22mpg.
I have not had any tranny problems and this is my everyday car.
3dog
3dog,
Couple of questions.
1 - what size injectors are you running?
2 - are you talking about the serpentine belt tensioner?? If so, I am confused. The belty tensioner the supercharger bracket is fabbed around was not available after the 98/99GS. After that Lexus switched designs and the new design did not fit around the SC bracket. It would take serious cutting of the bracket to make it work. Please explain how you did this?
Jonny
#65
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SC Questions Answered
Originally Posted by trbopooh
wow, even better. i thought you might be running full exhaust & headers to achieve those numbers. NICE!!!
I've got a Greddy exhaust.
I wanted to get the headers for a while but
dropped out when it took so long and then
I heard the engine would need to be taken out
to do install.
Originally Posted by Dx3
3dog,
Couple of questions.
1 - what size injectors are you running?
2 - are you talking about the serpentine belt tensioner?? If so, I am confused. The belty tensioner the supercharger bracket is fabbed around was not available after the 98/99GS. After that Lexus switched designs and the new design did not fit around the SC bracket. It would take serious cutting of the bracket to make it work. Please explain how you did this?
Jonny
Couple of questions.
1 - what size injectors are you running?
2 - are you talking about the serpentine belt tensioner?? If so, I am confused. The belty tensioner the supercharger bracket is fabbed around was not available after the 98/99GS. After that Lexus switched designs and the new design did not fit around the SC bracket. It would take serious cutting of the bracket to make it work. Please explain how you did this?
Jonny
Questions
1.Injectors are 310 cc
2. No not the serpentine belt.
My car is a 1999.
Okay I just reread what I wrote down and the correct description is the "idler" tensioner pulley.
I left out the "idler" part in my post
It sits just to the right of the SC pulley.
Sorry about the confusion.
My mech also said I need to replace the tensioner pulley as it is starting to make some noise.
You've probably guessed.
But I will freely admit I know next to nothing about any of this stuff..
I also found my receipt for the Valve Body upgrade and it was $557 so I was off a little bit.
On the other hand I was over on the XS Eng. it came in at $400.
So total for everything was still under $6000.
I will go back and try to correct my first post.
Ivan
3dog
#66
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Originally Posted by 3dog
My mech also said I need to replace the tensioner pulley as it is starting to make some noise.
jonny
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Originally Posted by GILLEXUS
3Dogg do you know what psi your RMM S/C is running at? sounds like you got frear HP #'s from your w/o any issues. Oh man, just think if you add the S@S headers. I think you could add 15- 25 more hp.
I asked the previous owner what he remembered getting when he ran it with the 3.33 pulley and he thought it was around 5 PSI.
My wife is still mumbling incoherently about the 6 grand.
I've had to buy her several pieces of jewelery to keep her civil.
I don't think the headers are gonna happen because of how much I've spent.
But thats okay, the car is pretty dam quick already
Ivan
3dog
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Gaterback belt
Originally Posted by Dx3
Speaking from experience, you cannot replace it as I mentioned above. It sucks! I ended up getting a gatorback belt that was 2 sizes too small and it has worked perfectly.
jonny
jonny
Why can't you replace the tensioner pulley?
And why would a belt fix the pulley?
Also I don't understand what a gatorback belt is or why you would want one 2 sizes to small
Could you enlighten me I'm really confused
Ivan
3dog
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Originally Posted by 3dog
Now I don't understand
Why can't you replace the tensioner pulley?
And why would a belt fix the pulley?
Also I don't understand what a gatorback belt is or why you would want one 2 sizes to small
Could you enlighten me I'm really confused
Ivan
3dog
Why can't you replace the tensioner pulley?
And why would a belt fix the pulley?
Also I don't understand what a gatorback belt is or why you would want one 2 sizes to small
Could you enlighten me I'm really confused
Ivan
3dog
1. Why can't you replace the pulley?
When the GS was released in 98 it had a belt pulley on it ( doh don't know why I just said that!!) . We will call this pulley "A". However, the 1999+ model years had a newly redesigned pulley - we will call pulley "B". Although they both bolt up to the block together, pulley A is shaped and built a little differently. When RMM designed the sc bracket, they designed it off the pulley A. But, unfortunately for us you can no longer buy a pulley A, only a B. And the problem with this is that the sc bracket does not fit around pulley B. If you were to cut the bracket to make it fit, the bracket would lose its structural integrity in the part where it is needed most. Basic synopsis - we are screwed!
2. And why would a belt fix the pulley?
My problem with the pulley is that it had a lot of play - I didn't have problems with my bearings. The belt does not fix the pulley - it just keeps it very tight so there is no play in the pulley.
3. Also I don't understand what a gatorback belt is or why you would want one 2 sizes to small.
A gatorback belt is a brand of belt made particularly for performance cars. If you look at your serpentine belt you will see it has ZERO grip. A gatorback belt basically has tread like a tire so it grips. The pulleys are smooth so there is a possibility of belt slippage with an OWM belt - hence using the gatorback. The reason for getting it 2 sizes to small is explained in answer 2. This only applies if you have too much play in your tensioner.
OK, my hands are tired!! Hope this answers your questions.
Jonny
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thanks for the input
Originally Posted by Dx3
Ivan,
1. Why can't you replace the pulley?
When the GS was released in 98 it had a belt pulley on it ( doh don't know why I just said that!!) . We will call this pulley "A". However, the 1999+ model years had a newly redesigned pulley - we will call pulley "B". Although they both bolt up to the block together, pulley A is shaped and built a little differently. When RMM designed the sc bracket, they designed it off the pulley A. But, unfortunately for us you can no longer buy a pulley A, only a B. And the problem with this is that the sc bracket does not fit around pulley B. If you were to cut the bracket to make it fit, the bracket would lose its structural integrity in the part where it is needed most. Basic synopsis - we are screwed!
2. And why would a belt fix the pulley?
My problem with the pulley is that it had a lot of play - I didn't have problems with my bearings. The belt does not fix the pulley - it just keeps it very tight so there is no play in the pulley.
3. Also I don't understand what a gatorback belt is or why you would want one 2 sizes to small.
A gatorback belt is a brand of belt made particularly for performance cars. If you look at your serpentine belt you will see it has ZERO grip. A gatorback belt basically has tread like a tire so it grips. The pulleys are smooth so there is a possibility of belt slippage with an OWM belt - hence using the gatorback. The reason for getting it 2 sizes to small is explained in answer 2. This only applies if you have too much play in your tensioner.
OK, my hands are tired!! Hope this answers your questions.
Jonny
1. Why can't you replace the pulley?
When the GS was released in 98 it had a belt pulley on it ( doh don't know why I just said that!!) . We will call this pulley "A". However, the 1999+ model years had a newly redesigned pulley - we will call pulley "B". Although they both bolt up to the block together, pulley A is shaped and built a little differently. When RMM designed the sc bracket, they designed it off the pulley A. But, unfortunately for us you can no longer buy a pulley A, only a B. And the problem with this is that the sc bracket does not fit around pulley B. If you were to cut the bracket to make it fit, the bracket would lose its structural integrity in the part where it is needed most. Basic synopsis - we are screwed!
2. And why would a belt fix the pulley?
My problem with the pulley is that it had a lot of play - I didn't have problems with my bearings. The belt does not fix the pulley - it just keeps it very tight so there is no play in the pulley.
3. Also I don't understand what a gatorback belt is or why you would want one 2 sizes to small.
A gatorback belt is a brand of belt made particularly for performance cars. If you look at your serpentine belt you will see it has ZERO grip. A gatorback belt basically has tread like a tire so it grips. The pulleys are smooth so there is a possibility of belt slippage with an OWM belt - hence using the gatorback. The reason for getting it 2 sizes to small is explained in answer 2. This only applies if you have too much play in your tensioner.
OK, my hands are tired!! Hope this answers your questions.
Jonny
Yes that does answer the questions.
I do remember now that RMM told me once before that the tensioner pulley was no longer available. They did say that you could replace the bearings in it. Whether that is really an option I have no idea.
Thanks for taking the time to write all that down.
So as I understand it, this is a Lexus made part, am I right?
Do you think it would be possible to find the pulley on a 1998 model that was totaled.
Also if it is a Lexus part shouldn't be available somehow from Lexus?
Thanks for the input
Ivan
3dog
#71
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Originally Posted by 3dog
I don't have a boost gauge so I don't know for sure what the PSI is.
I asked the previous owner what he remembered getting when he ran it with the 3.33 pulley and he thought it was around 5 PSI.
My wife is still mumbling incoherently about the 6 grand.
I've had to buy her several pieces of jewelery to keep her civil.
I don't think the headers are gonna happen because of how much I've spent.
But thats okay, the car is pretty dam quick already
Ivan
3dog
I asked the previous owner what he remembered getting when he ran it with the 3.33 pulley and he thought it was around 5 PSI.
My wife is still mumbling incoherently about the 6 grand.
I've had to buy her several pieces of jewelery to keep her civil.
I don't think the headers are gonna happen because of how much I've spent.
But thats okay, the car is pretty dam quick already
Ivan
3dog
DX3,
Do you have any pics for referance to see ,the pulley/tensioner that you are talking about.. Isn't the tensioner totally different on the 430 motor.?
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Originally Posted by 3dog
Yes that does answer the questions.
I do remember now that RMM told me once before that the tensioner pulley was no longer available. They did say that you could replace the bearings in it. Whether that is really an option I have no idea.
Thanks for taking the time to write all that down.
So as I understand it, this is a Lexus made part, am I right?
Do you think it would be possible to find the pulley on a 1998 model that was totaled.
Also if it is a Lexus part shouldn't be available somehow from Lexus?
Thanks for the input
Ivan
3dog
I do remember now that RMM told me once before that the tensioner pulley was no longer available. They did say that you could replace the bearings in it. Whether that is really an option I have no idea.
Thanks for taking the time to write all that down.
So as I understand it, this is a Lexus made part, am I right?
Do you think it would be possible to find the pulley on a 1998 model that was totaled.
Also if it is a Lexus part shouldn't be available somehow from Lexus?
Thanks for the input
Ivan
3dog
Well, it should be available - but they stopped making them so it isn't available. The part is basically 7 years old so there is nowhere to find them. Trust me - I called everywhere!!
So basically yes, you will have to try and have yours redone with new bearings
Glad I could help Ivan.
Jonny
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Originally Posted by GILLEXUS
DX3,
Do you have any pics for referance to see ,the pulley/tensioner that you are talking about.. Isn't the tensioner totally different on the 430 motor.?
Do you have any pics for referance to see ,the pulley/tensioner that you are talking about.. Isn't the tensioner totally different on the 430 motor.?
No - they are actually the same
98 pulley
99+GS400 & GS430
Hope this helps,
Jonny
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bearings on tensioner pulley
Originally Posted by Dx3
So basically yes, you will have to try and have yours redone with new bearings
Glad I could help Ivan.
Jonny
Thanks for all the info.
You've looked at this pulley very closely.
In your opinion is it possible to replace the bearings?
Thanks
Ivan
3dog
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Originally Posted by 3dog
Hey Jonny
Thanks for all the info.
You've looked at this pulley very closely.
In your opinion is it possible to replace the bearings?
Thanks
Ivan
3dog
Thanks for all the info.
You've looked at this pulley very closely.
In your opinion is it possible to replace the bearings?
Thanks
Ivan
3dog
I am certainly no expert but I would have to say that it is your best bet. There really is no alternative
Jonny