JeffTsai

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So do the GS300 and GS400 share the EXACT same transmission? How about the GS430? I'm just wondering because I'm about to boost soon. If they are the same exact tranny then it should have no problem holding my 300-320HP(crank power, not wheels) under ultra low boost because thats how much power the GS4's make on stock output. I know there are a couple of you GS4 guys running 400-500hp on the Toyota tranny with just coolers, tq converters, and valve body upgrades.

If the V8 transmission is built stronger, I wonder if it's possible for me to put that tranny in my car...heh

Spyder78

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nope I believe that they are different trannies. Sotck gs3 tranny is said to be good up to 380 hp. PM gsoup he should be boosting soon so he knows more than I do.

GSteg

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I think they both use the same A650E transmission.

GSoup

I'm doing research on this now...but here is the tranny info for lexus/toyota

LEXUS
Model/Years/Transmission Type/Engine Type/Size/Transmission Model Remarks
ES250 90-91 4 SP FWD V6 2.5L A540E
ES300 92-93 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L A540E
ES300 94-98 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L A541E
ES300 99-01 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L A541E 17 BOLT PAN
ES300 99-01 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L U140E 18 BOLT PAN
ES300 02-03 5 SP FWD V6 3.0L U150E
GS300 93-95 4 SP RWD L6 3.0L A340E
GS300 96-97 5 SP RWD L6 3.0L A350E
GS300 98-03 5 SP RWD L6 3.0L A650E
GS400 98-00 5 SP RWD V8 4.0L A650E
GS430 01-03 5 SP RWD V8 4.3L A650E
GX470 03 5 SP AWD V8 4.7L A750F
IS300 01-03 5 SP RWD L6 3.0L A650E
LS400 90-97 4 SP RWD V8 4.0L A341E
LS400 98-00 5 SP RWD V8 4.0L A650E
LS430 01-03 5 SP RWD V8 4.3L A650E
LX450 96-97 4 SP 4X4 L6 4.5L A343F
LX470 98-02 4 SP 4X4 V8 4.7L A343F
LX470 03 5 SP 4X4 V8 4.7L A750F
RX300 98-03 4 SP 4X4 V6 3.0L U140F
RX300 98-03 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L U140E
SC300 92-97 4 SP RWD L6 3.0L A340E
SC300 98-00 4 SP RWD L6 3.0L A341E
SC400 92-97 4 SP RWD V8 4.0L A341E
SC400 98-00 5 SP RWD V8 4.0L A650E
SC430 01-03 5 SP RWD V8 4.3L A650E

TOYOTA

4 RUNNER 89-91 4 SP RWD L4 2.4L A44D
4 RUNNER 89-02 4 SP RWD L4 2.4L V6 3.0L/3.4L A340E
4 RUNNER 90-94 4 SP 4X4 V6 3.0L A340H
4 RUNNER 95-03 4 SP 4X4 V6 3.0L/3.4L/4.0L A340F
4 RUNNER 03 5 SP RWD V8 4.7L A750E
4 RUNNER 03 5 SP 4X4 V8 4.7L A750F
AVALON 95-03 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L A541E
CAMRY 83-01 4 SP FWD L4 1.8/2.0/ 2.2L A140E/L
CAMRY 88-93 4 SP FWD V6 2.5L/3.0L A540E
CAMRY 90-91 4 SP AWD V6 3.0L A540H ALL WHEEL DRIVE
CAMRY 94-01 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L A541E
CAMRY 02-03 4 SP FWD L4 2.4L U241E
CAMRY 02 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L U140E
CAMRY 03 5 SP FWD V6 3.0L U151E
CELICA GT 90-93 4 SP FWD L4 2.0L A243L
CELICA GT 94-99 4 SP FWD L4 2.0L A140E
CELICA GT 00-03 4 SP FWD L4 1.8L U341E
CELICA GTS 90-93 4 SP FWD L4 2.2L A241E
CELICA ST 90-93 4 SP FWD L4 2.2L A241L
CELICA ST 94-99 4 SP FWD L4 2.2L A246E
CELICA GTS 00-03 4 SP FWD L4 1.8L U240E
COROLLA 84-01 3 SP FWD L4 1.6L 1.8L A131L INCLUDES "FX"
COROLLA 85-92 4 SP FWD L4 1.6L A240L INCLUDES "FX"
COROLLA 90-92 4 SP AWD L4 1.6L A241H ALL WHEEL DRIVE
COROLLA 93-03 4 SP FWD L41.8L A245E
CRESSIDA 87-92 4 SP RWD L6 2.8/3.0L A340E
ECHO 00-03 4 SP FWD L4 1.5L U340E
HIGHLANDER 01-03 4 SP FWD L4 2.4L U241E
HIGHLANDER 01-03 4 SP 4X4 L4 2.4L V6 3.0L U140F
HIGHLANDER 01-03 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L U140E
LAND CRUISER 88-92 4 SP 4X4 L6 4.0/4.2L A440F
LAND CRUISER 93-1/95 4 SP 4X4 L6 4.5L A442F
LAND CRUISER 1/95-02 4 SP 4X4 L6 4.5L/V8 4.7L A343F
LAND CRUISER 03 5 SP 4X4 V8 4.7L A750F
MATRIX 03 4 SP FWD L4 1.8L A245E VVT-I ENGINE (130HP)
MATRIX 03 4 SP FWD L4 1.8L U240E VVTL-I ENGINE(180 HP)
MATRIX 03 4 SP AWD L4 1.8L U341F
MR2 89-95 4 SP FWD L4 2.2L A241E
PASEO 92-99 4 SP FWD L4 1.5L A244E
PICKUP 90-94 4 SP 4X4 L4 2.4L A340F
PICKUP 90-94 4 SP 4X4 V6 3.0L A340H
PICKUP (T100) 93-98 4 SP RWD L4 2.7L V6 3.0/3.4L A340E
PICKUP (T100) 93-98 4 SP 4X4 L4 2.7L V6 3.0/3.4L A340F
PICKUP/TACOMA 85-03 4 SP RWD L4 2.4L A43D
PICKUP/TACOMA 89-03 4 SP RWD L4 2.7L V6 3.0/3.4L A340E
PICKUP/TACOMA 95-03 4 SP 4X4 L4 2.7L V6 3.4L A340F
PREVIA 91-97 4 SP RWD L4 2.4L A46DE W/O SUPERCH.
PREVIA 91-97 4 SP 4X4 L4 2.4L A46DF W/O SUPERCH.
PREVIA 93-97 4 SP RWD L4 2.4L A340E W/SUPERCHARGER
PREVIA 93-97 4 SP 4X4 L4 2.4L A340F W/SUPERCHARGER
PRIUS 02-03 ECCVT L4 1.5L CVT
RAV4 96-97 4 SP FWD L4 2.0L A241E
RAV4 96-99 4 SP 4X4 L4 2.0L A540H
RAV4 98-99 4 SP FWD L4 2.0L A247E
RAV4 00-03 4 SP 4X4 L4 2.0L U140F
RAV4 00-03 4 SP FWD L4 2.0L U241E
SEQUOIA 01-03 4 SP RWD V8 4.7L A340E
SEQUOIA 01-03 4 SP 4X4 V8 4.7L A340F
SIENNA 98-00 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L A540E
SIENNA 01-03 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L A541E
SIENNA 2004 5 SP FWD V6 3.3L U151E
SIENNA 2004 5 SP AWD V6 3.3L U151F
SOLARA 98-01 4 SP FWD L4 2.2L A140E
SOLARA 98-03 4 SP FWD V6 3.0L A541E
SOLARA 02-03 4 SP FWD L4 2.4L U241E
SUPRA 86-98 4 SP RWD L6 3.0L A340E W/O TURBO
SUPRA 93-98 4 SP RWD L6 3.0L A341E W/ TURBO
TERCEL 88-99 3 SP FWD L4 1.5L A132L
TERCEL 95-99 4 SP FWD L4 1.5L A242L
TUNDRA 00-03 4 SP RWD V6 3.4L V8 4.7L A340E
TUNDRA 00-03 4 SP 4X4 V6 3.4L V8 4.7L A340F

ElitistK

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larry @ sp said the A650E tranny can hold up to about 380rwhp without rebuilding. However, even with rebuilding, the unit seems to fail rather quickly even with proper cooling.

FYI, Morris on CL claimed to have a gte with a built gs4 tranny setup and is pushing over 400 rwhp on the 2jz-gte thread in the performance section.

morris

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The tranny in a GS400 will not hold up to true 400+ rwhp numbers. It just wont. Even when they are supposedly built they will fail in short order. For the period when they do run you will still have problems bouncing off the limiter. The design of the transmission just doesnt lend itself to high HP, what I am told by builders is that it cannot be built for sustained use at 400+ let alone 500rwhp numbers.

There is something about the tranny does not have 5 full gears, from what they tell me there are something like 3 distinct gears and you get the others by using the overdrive function within the transmission.

Everyone I have talked to with a blown 400 has had tranny problems once they approach 400rwhp

By the way I have a built 1uz with another blown GS400 tranny.

JeffTsai

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Maybe I'll have to swap to the V160 6-Speed tranny when the time comes. But for now...I think I'll be ok with the stock tranny at low boost

morris

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I would think anything under 350rwhp and you should be fine Jaime has been running his with 6psi for some time now and has no issues other than the rev limiter issue.

jmecbr900

I've been running 8 psi forever it seems. I have a PI TC, VB upgrade, and cooler. I ran my best ET so far this past weekend with a 12.63@112mph. The tranny has 122K+ on it, although as previously stated that's not on all the components. I've had all the tranny upgrades since before going FI.

The transmission is a huge Achilles. My previous best was 13.0@108. I have always said that my car was a 12 sec car based on my butt dyno and if it would ever shift right. Just about every time I'd have to lift somewhere down track to keep it off the rev limiter, which of course kills your ET's. Well Sunday, it did shift right and hence the results. I ran a couple more 12's too, so it wasn't just a case of a fluke. My first run was 13.0 with me having to lift. I figured I'd be stuck in the same rut, but suddenly the tranny started shifting right. On the 12.6 run, I KNEW it was a good run just because all the gears shifted as they should. I didn't think it would be 12.6 good, but I knew it felt like it should. Now, if I could only have that everytime....I'd be a happy man.

The transmission is not made to take a ton of HP. It will, within moderation, take a good bit. Consider that my best dyno so far has been 400RWHP and 410TQ, I'd say it hold considerably more than it really should if you think about it being designed to hold something more like 250.

sam430

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Would you need a custom driveshaft to do v160? I was reading the spec on the f150 svt and they have a 4.5" aluminum driveshaft.

TTurboPimp

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this is an old *** thread, but to answer your question, yes, you need a custom drive shaft for the V160. Thats actually one of the least expensive pieces of that swap though. Its relatively inexpensive and quick to have a driveshaft made.

morris

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I have a complete GS400 tranny if you need a spare

Chris98GS4

Hey man. How much are you looking to get for your trans?
And how many miles on it?

morris

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$900 it has about 60K miles maybe less.

JiBBeL

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It's too funny to see this old thread get bumped. Jeff is asking questions about transmission strength and thinking of boosting his GS3? Ahhh how the student has become the master