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Old 04-15-08, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by thisisj0
what is VE?
Volumetric Efficiency - It is a basic term used to describe how well an engine is performing based in the input(s) vs. the output measured are a percentage.

Based on the system, the VE table is used to 'Map' the fuel curve for an engine.
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Originally Posted by carchitect
E85 is garbage. It is a blend of Corny alcohol and waste byproducts of the distillation of crude oil (liquified plastics). It is supposed to be 70% minimum ethanol and in theory it is supposed to be 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. E85 is supposed to go into flex-fuel vehicles. It isn't designed for a high performance engine. Every vehicle that is a flex-fuel vehicle has a terrible VE and low RPM redline and so it works fine. If you were to tune for E85 today, the tune could potentially vary by upto 20% during the next fillup.

E85 was a loop hole for the domestic manufacturers to gain CAFE standards since they only measure MPG of gasoline and that is 15% of E85 that is measured. So a 1/2 ton Silverado gave tham 91 MPG!!

IMO, methanol is a lot better alcohol. Meth has atleast 20 higher BTU consumption compared to ethanol when vaporized. Its specific output is also greater and it is more consistent. Meth costs more than E85 but is the same as E100.

Either ways, you can't use it for direct injection. E100 or M100 would require a lot larger fuel injectors. Gasoline is not conductive but alcohol is and so it may not be uasble in the direct injectors or possibly even the port injectors. I think the only way to make it work would be a new cast/fabbed intake plenum in place of the OEM thermoplastic plenum and a couple of injectors in the intake track right after the throttle body. This way you could still keep the OEM fuel system intact and have it work as designed. Additional fuel could be then administered from the additional fuel injector(s).
There are whole sites dedicated to these exact topics. I don't plan on converting my whole car to run on E85. My thought currently is to make a NOS fogger system that can dump large amounts (40% more) of E85 in place of regular gas. The closer the fogger system is to the intake valves the better but it is still not as good as direct injecting it.

Methanol and Ethanol has similar properties when compared to regular gas. E85, E79, etc... are somewhere between. But I can drive down the street and get a gallon of E85 for 3 bucks.

Thanks for your input though.
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