Changing internals on (non-FI) GS400/430...has any1 done it?
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Checking out Lextreme's website I was wondering if anyone here has done or knows someone who has done major engine work (internals) such as bore, stroke, port etc etc to a non-FI GS400/430. It will be super reliable power.
With the addition of new headers (ordering soon) and a re-tune of my NEO I will be damn near close to 300whp (maybe around 295 or so) and that is with the virgin 1UZ engine! Now, with a stroker kit and other mods to the internals (professionally done) I think the car would have no problem hitting 350 - 360whp. This would be awesome because it will be a nice increase in torque as well since your increasing the displacement of the engine. How much would you pay for something like this? Or would you not and why? Thanks for the feedback.
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Checking out Lextreme's website I was wondering if anyone here has done or knows someone who has done major engine work (internals) such as bore, stroke, port etc etc to a non-FI GS400/430. It will be super reliable power.
With the addition of new headers (ordering soon) and a re-tune of my NEO I will be damn near close to 300whp (maybe around 295 or so) and that is with the virgin 1UZ engine! Now, with a stroker kit and other mods to the internals (professionally done) I think the car would have no problem hitting 350 - 360whp. This would be awesome because it will be a nice increase in torque as well since your increasing the displacement of the engine. How much would you pay for something like this? Or would you not and why? Thanks for the feedback.![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Checking out Lextreme's website I was wondering if anyone here has done or knows someone who has done major engine work (internals) such as bore, stroke, port etc etc to a non-FI GS400/430. It will be super reliable power.
With the addition of new headers (ordering soon) and a re-tune of my NEO I will be damn near close to 300whp (maybe around 295 or so) and that is with the virgin 1UZ engine! Now, with a stroker kit and other mods to the internals (professionally done) I think the car would have no problem hitting 350 - 360whp. This would be awesome because it will be a nice increase in torque as well since your increasing the displacement of the engine. How much would you pay for something like this? Or would you not and why? Thanks for the feedback.![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I have dyno'd 270whp and 295wtq with JUST a K&N FIPK intake, Borla rear section exhaust, TM spark plugs and tuning my Apexi NEO...YES!!! Other mods but not helping with the dyno are my 3.76 LSD and the PI TC.
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It takes more than 8K to build these motors properly (unfortunately). Typical machine shop costs are over half that 8K, then you have to factor in fuel, cams, internals, etc. The price rises fast. Expect to be looking at double that 8K figure for a proper high CR, high HP NA job.
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It takes more than 8K to build these motors properly (unfortunately). Typical machine shop costs are over half that 8K, then you have to factor in fuel, cams, internals, etc. The price rises fast. Expect to be looking at double that 8K figure for a proper high CR, high HP NA job.
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Thanks again!
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Yes, you are correct. But this thing about Horsepower TV is that most of their builds are chevys and fords which are all cast iorn blocks, and some late model engines like the LSx or modular. It is a heck of a lot easier to bore a 302 or a 350, and it can be done for less than 200 bucks, unlike our engine which need to be bored over, and resleeved. The cost of the block work, head work, internals, and the supporting mods will all be a large part of your budget. Plus who sells cams for the 3uz, besides TTC... Who can afford $1,800 for jsut cams in the first place? You can just pick up the a hotrodding magazine and order just any part for a Toyota engine, but you can a Ford, chevy or dodge... It's unfair... Just kidding, that's why i believe in making the 3uz to LS2 switch. Just my 2 cents.
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Yes, you are correct. But this thing about Horsepower TV is that most of their builds are chevys and fords which are all cast iorn blocks, and some late model engines like the LSx or modular. It is a heck of a lot easier to bore a 302 or a 350, and it can be done for less than 200 bucks, unlike our engine which need to be bored over, and resleeved. The cost of the block work, head work, internals, and the supporting mods will all be a large part of your budget. Plus who sells cams for the 3uz, besides TTC... Who can afford $1,800 for jsut cams in the first place? You can just pick up the a hotrodding magazine and order just any part for a Toyota engine, but you can a Ford, chevy or dodge... It's unfair... Just kidding, that's why i believe in making the 3uz to LS2 switch. Just my 2 cents.
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Checking the manual, it will take 43-44 hours (mechanic charge time) to rebuild the 1UZ. If you're mechanic charges 50/hr then you can do the math. That doesn't even cover the R&R of the motor.
The other things that haven't been considered are the small parts. gaskets (valve stem seals, oil pan gasket, head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, upper and lower manifold gaskets etc) water pump, maybe a new starter since everything is off. Man there is so much more.
Cams hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Where can I get cams
The other things that haven't been considered are the small parts. gaskets (valve stem seals, oil pan gasket, head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, upper and lower manifold gaskets etc) water pump, maybe a new starter since everything is off. Man there is so much more.
Cams hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Where can I get cams
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Checking the manual, it will take 43-44 hours (mechanic charge time) to rebuild the 1UZ. If you're mechanic charges 50/hr then you can do the math. That doesn't even cover the R&R of the motor.
The other things that haven't been considered are the small parts. gaskets (valve stem seals, oil pan gasket, head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, upper and lower manifold gaskets etc) water pump, maybe a new starter since everything is off. Man there is so much more.
Cams hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Where can I get cams![Wink](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
The other things that haven't been considered are the small parts. gaskets (valve stem seals, oil pan gasket, head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, upper and lower manifold gaskets etc) water pump, maybe a new starter since everything is off. Man there is so much more.
Cams hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Where can I get cams
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Took your suggestion and did the math. The Lextreme kit for 800hp capable motor is ~$3,000. Rebuild time is 43 hours according your post so I figured 50 just to be safe. 50hrs at $75/hr is another $3,000. Figure another $1,000 for odds an ends gaskets and filters?
$7,000 for rebuilt motor. Guessing it would have around 350 crank hp stock after rebuild and be capable of handling closer to 800. Throw in your headers, intake, and etc and I don't see why it wouldn't be around 360-370hp. Not sure what that makes at wheel.
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Took your suggestion and did the math. The Lextreme kit for 800hp capable motor is ~$3,000. Rebuild time is 43 hours according your post so I figured 50 just to be safe. 50hrs at $75/hr is another $3,000. Figure another $1,000 for odds an ends gaskets and filters?
$7,000 for rebuilt motor. Guessing it would have around 350 crank hp stock after rebuild and be capable of handling closer to 800. Throw in your headers, intake, and etc and I don't see why it wouldn't be around 360-370hp. Not sure what that makes at wheel.
$7,000 for rebuilt motor. Guessing it would have around 350 crank hp stock after rebuild and be capable of handling closer to 800. Throw in your headers, intake, and etc and I don't see why it wouldn't be around 360-370hp. Not sure what that makes at wheel.
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