Does anyone or has anyone ran the SRT intake and an Apexi Neo or something similar?
12-17-08, 04:54 PM
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Doesnt the srt ecu essentially do the same job as an apex neo would do? If you were to use the srt pipe and get the car properly tuned using the neo would you not see bigger gains and no codes? I just dont see the srt ecu doing a good job in changing the a/f mixture once you start adding headers and exhaust.
12-17-08, 05:02 PM
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Sorry, that is incorrect. The SRT ECU is not adjustable by the individual owner, but you can send it along with a dyno / air-fuel into SRT and have them re-map it for you.
Or best case (what I did) was to take your car into their shop and have them dyno it onsite and do a custom map for you. Did that both for the intake and when I used a similar SRT ECU on my supercharger setup. Know that isn't as flexibile as doing it yourself with an SAFCII or Neo but it most definitely is adjustable.
Or best case (what I did) was to take your car into their shop and have them dyno it onsite and do a custom map for you. Did that both for the intake and when I used a similar SRT ECU on my supercharger setup. Know that isn't as flexibile as doing it yourself with an SAFCII or Neo but it most definitely is adjustable.
12-18-08, 09:25 AM
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Hey Dave as far as I am concerned that is not adjustable that is re-programming the chip; much different in my humble opinion.
Then EVERY chip on the market will be "adjustable" in your example. You could send a chip (regardless of manufacturer) along with the dyno charts and A/F #'s and yes they could THEN re-flash/re-program the chip and send it back to you. As far as I'm concerned this is NOT the same "adjustability" as a typical A/F controller or a standalone EMS. Perhaps we can agree to disagree.
...plus who wants to spend $$$ everytime shipping something like that back and fourth with the installation of every mod? I'd rather pay once and learn to tune myself and save $$$.
Then EVERY chip on the market will be "adjustable" in your example. You could send a chip (regardless of manufacturer) along with the dyno charts and A/F #'s and yes they could THEN re-flash/re-program the chip and send it back to you. As far as I'm concerned this is NOT the same "adjustability" as a typical A/F controller or a standalone EMS. Perhaps we can agree to disagree.
...plus who wants to spend $$$ everytime shipping something like that back and fourth with the installation of every mod? I'd rather pay once and learn to tune myself and save $$$.
12-18-08, 09:37 AM
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Well, we'll just have to disagree . Whether you do it yourself via the AF/ controller or the tuner does it based on a dyno sheet or 'live' during before / after dynos the end result is exactly the same. The A/F mix for the entire RPM range is adjusted (not "NOT adjustable" 
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I personally think the live before / after iterative dyno by an expert is going to be the most accurate and safest method. You can call it re-programming if you want, but you're doing the same thing with the A/F controller yourself but less precisely. Realistically not many avail themselves of that method nor will they pay for the dyno time to do it. (especially for an intake vs FI applications).
. Whether you do it yourself via the AF/ controller or the tuner does it based on a dyno sheet or 'live' during before / after dynos the end result is exactly the same. The A/F mix for the entire RPM range is adjusted (not "NOT adjustable" )I personally think the live before / after iterative dyno by an expert is going to be the most accurate and safest method. You can call it re-programming if you want, but you're doing the same thing with the A/F controller yourself but less precisely. Realistically not many avail themselves of that method nor will they pay for the dyno time to do it. (especially for an intake vs FI applications).
12-26-08, 11:25 PM
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Now if we could just copy and upload maps for each car and a particular mod.
Then make a whole base line package to head to the dyno and cut off a few hours in mapping .
Then make a whole base line package to head to the dyno and cut off a few hours in mapping .
01-04-09, 10:43 PM
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From what I gathered it seems that for us 430 guys if we plan on using the srt intake to stick with the srt ecu, but if we want to use an apexi neo for a tuning device than we should stick to an intake pipe such as an injen.
How is it that the srt ecu is able to get more power out of cars and yet not throw a code, but if I decided to go srt/neo route I would run into problems and throw cels??
How is it that the srt ecu is able to get more power out of cars and yet not throw a code, but if I decided to go srt/neo route I would run into problems and throw cels??
01-05-09, 04:16 PM
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From what I gathered it seems that for us 430 guys if we plan on using the srt intake to stick with the srt ecu, but if we want to use an apexi neo for a tuning device than we should stick to an intake pipe such as an injen.
How is it that the srt ecu is able to get more power out of cars and yet not throw a code, but if I decided to go srt/neo route I would run into problems and throw cels??
How is it that the srt ecu is able to get more power out of cars and yet not throw a code, but if I decided to go srt/neo route I would run into problems and throw cels??
Both Neo and SRT chip are fuel controllers, the only difference with running a NEO with SRT pipe over the SRT chip is that the chip is set for the intake flow already. You have to play with the Neo to find the correct setting for the SRT intake.
01-05-09, 04:58 PM
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So with a good tuner and some hours on the dyno you should be able to setup the neo to work with the srt pipe, correct?
Either way for now im going to run both the srt pipe and ecu. It saves me $300 on the neo and more $$ on dyno tuning. Ill spend that money elsewhere
Either way for now im going to run both the srt pipe and ecu. It saves me $300 on the neo and more $$ on dyno tuning. Ill spend that money elsewhere
02-01-09, 02:54 PM
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Questions.
I just installed SRT intake+ ECU... seems like I lost a lot of power. My car doesn't pull anymore but just makes a lot of noise. Will tuning with an safc improve my result or atleast get the power back to stock?
If safc is the way, should I just keep the SRT ecu on? or take it off?
SRT+ECU is the most disappointing mod I've ever done.
I just installed SRT intake+ ECU... seems like I lost a lot of power. My car doesn't pull anymore but just makes a lot of noise. Will tuning with an safc improve my result or atleast get the power back to stock?
If safc is the way, should I just keep the SRT ecu on? or take it off?
SRT+ECU is the most disappointing mod I've ever done.
02-01-09, 03:33 PM
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Questions.
I just installed SRT intake+ ECU... seems like I lost a lot of power. My car doesn't pull anymore but just makes a lot of noise. Will tuning with an safc improve my result or atleast get the power back to stock?
If safc is the way, should I just keep the SRT ecu on? or take it off?
SRT+ECU is the most disappointing mod I've ever done.
I just installed SRT intake+ ECU... seems like I lost a lot of power. My car doesn't pull anymore but just makes a lot of noise. Will tuning with an safc improve my result or atleast get the power back to stock?
If safc is the way, should I just keep the SRT ecu on? or take it off?
SRT+ECU is the most disappointing mod I've ever done.
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