Performance Forced induction, intakes, exhausts, torque converters, transmissions, etc.

VIDEO & Photo's - IS350 Supercharger Install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-21-09 | 05:18 AM
  #151  
Kurtz's Avatar
Kurtz
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,810
Likes: 14
From: NC
Default

Originally Posted by windex
I have been on a DRY nitrous 100 shot for about 35-40 bottles now and I havent had a single problem

Other than the price of tires
Now see, that kinda info would be worth a 5+ page thread :P

Only N2O threads I'd seen with details/dynos/etc showed 65 shot max on pump gas... even going to 80 he needed race fuel to keep datalogged stuff in the safe range, but based on your info it appears he was being overly conservative
Old 10-21-09 | 11:08 AM
  #152  
montgb's Avatar
montgb
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 5
From: Northern VA
Default

Originally Posted by Kurtz
Now see, that kinda info would be worth a 5+ page thread :P

Only N2O threads I'd seen with details/dynos/etc showed 65 shot max on pump gas... even going to 80 he needed race fuel to keep datalogged stuff in the safe range, but based on your info it appears he was being overly conservative
Indeed - we need a IS350 + Nitrous thread! Windex, wanna get one started for us?
Old 10-21-09 | 11:26 AM
  #153  
L-S-D's Avatar
L-S-D
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,249
Likes: 2
From: cgy,ab
Default

how much did u pay isux tell us? lol

would jus buying a buncha parts off ebay needed for the s/c to work and we jus piece it together work for the isx50 ??

wouldnt that be a cheap alternative for booost ( it that was even possible to do it like that )
Old 10-21-09 | 01:57 PM
  #154  
Kurtz's Avatar
Kurtz
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,810
Likes: 14
From: NC
Default

Originally Posted by L-S-D
how much did u pay isux tell us? lol

would jus buying a buncha parts off ebay needed for the s/c to work and we jus piece it together work for the isx50 ??

wouldnt that be a cheap alternative for booost ( it that was even possible to do it like that )
It still won't be cheap, it'll just might be slightly cheaper than what a commercial kit would sell for.

Your other problem is that while the "big" parts like the blower itself and an intercooler should be easy to find, just about everything else (the pipes, the brackets, etc) will be custom for this car, so unless you find one of the 3 or 4 people who ever bought an LMS kit selling theirs you won't have much luck buying that stuff on ebay.

If you can make your own pipes and brackets then you'll maybe get away with building your own for a mere 3-4 grand (unless you're ok buying somebodys questionable condition used blower or something, you can likely go cheaper in that case)

and it still won't run any more boost than the existing kits did, which isn't much.
Old 10-21-09 | 02:01 PM
  #155  
L-S-D's Avatar
L-S-D
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,249
Likes: 2
From: cgy,ab
Default

Originally Posted by Kurtz
It still won't be cheap, it'll just might be slightly cheaper than what a commercial kit would sell for.

Your other problem is that while the "big" parts like the blower itself and an intercooler should be easy to find, just about everything else (the pipes, the brackets, etc) will be custom for this car, so unless you find one of the 3 or 4 people who ever bought an LMS kit selling theirs you won't have much luck buying that stuff on ebay.

If you can make your own pipes and brackets then you'll maybe get away with building your own for a mere 3-4 grand (unless you're ok buying somebodys questionable condition used blower or something, you can likely go cheaper in that case)

and it still won't run any more boost than the existing kits did, which isn't much.


well that is def an option id say if i could find all the pieces and piece them together for 2 grand ish thats worth 50 hp or 5lb of boost ... anyone know all the parts needed to make this happen? i might jus try this
Old 10-21-09 | 02:48 PM
  #156  
four o two's Avatar
four o two
Intermediate
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 326
Likes: 1
From: WA
Default

Originally Posted by montgb
100-shot = 100 hp
Wheel horsepower? Um, no. Jets for nitrous are ballparked for a rough figure, but it all depends on your tune as well (plugs, A/F mix, timing, etc.).
Old 10-21-09 | 06:14 PM
  #157  
AZ JB's Avatar
AZ JB
Advanced
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 621
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
Default

Originally Posted by four o two
Wheel horsepower? Um, no. Jets for nitrous are ballparked for a rough figure, but it all depends on your tune as well (plugs, A/F mix, timing, etc.).
Beat me to it
Old 10-21-09 | 07:39 PM
  #158  
four o two's Avatar
four o two
Intermediate
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 326
Likes: 1
From: WA
Default

Originally Posted by L-S-D
well that is def an option id say if i could find all the pieces and piece them together for 2 grand ish thats worth 50 hp or 5lb of boost ... anyone know all the parts needed to make this happen? i might jus try this
Piece together a S/C kit using a quality blower for $2K? Unless you've got your own metal shop and are a hell of a fabricator, you're dreaming.
Old 10-21-09 | 07:49 PM
  #159  
xuningshen's Avatar
xuningshen
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 0
From: Socal
Default

Originally Posted by four o two
Piece together a S/C kit using a quality blower for $2K? Unless you've got your own metal shop and are a hell of a fabricator, you're dreaming.

^^ u could be a little bit nicer about it....

Originally Posted by L-S-D
well that is def an option id say if i could find all the pieces and piece them together for 2 grand ish thats worth 50 hp or 5lb of boost ... anyone know all the parts needed to make this happen? i might jus try this
Sadly i thought the same thing, the c-2 procharger itself costs 2500. and the mounting bracket would be hard to fabricate. unless u got your hand on an old LMS one which Fox seemed to have done. also i'm sure routing pipe would be pretty annoying...

Last edited by xuningshen; 10-21-09 at 07:56 PM.
Old 10-21-09 | 08:05 PM
  #160  
windex's Avatar
windex
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,556
Likes: 1
From: SFV 818
Default

Originally Posted by four o two
Wheel horsepower? Um, no. Jets for nitrous are ballparked for a rough figure, but it all depends on your tune as well (plugs, A/F mix, timing, etc.).
with my jet size and average bottle pressure using a calculator this is what I got
A Nitrous jet size of .052" or 1.3208mm should produce:
122.12 HP with 1 port(s)

Actual HP to the wheels: 103.80 HP

So figure give or take its 100 hp
Old 10-22-09 | 12:48 AM
  #161  
four o two's Avatar
four o two
Intermediate
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 326
Likes: 1
From: WA
Default

Originally Posted by windex
with my jet size and average bottle pressure using a calculator this is what I got
A Nitrous jet size of .052" or 1.3208mm should produce:
122.12 HP with 1 port(s)

Actual HP to the wheels: 103.80 HP

So figure give or take its 100 hp
Nice. Have you ever dyno'd the car to see how close these figures were? I was simply making the point that 100hp shot doesn't necessarily equal 100 wheel HP. That being said, everyone I've known on the gas has been able to squeeze more out of the jets than advertised, as you probably have. Just wanted to clear any misinformation.

Don't think I haven't thought of throwing a 75 shot on my 350 just for kicks. Too busy saving for a single for the MKIV though.
Old 10-22-09 | 12:51 AM
  #162  
L-S-D's Avatar
L-S-D
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,249
Likes: 2
From: cgy,ab
Default

just a thought lol im no guru when it comes to boosting cars... jus thought maybe could find all the parts needed through ebay which i assume would be less than a retail kit lol the only problem is finding the needed parts lol
Old 10-22-09 | 12:53 AM
  #163  
four o two's Avatar
four o two
Intermediate
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 326
Likes: 1
From: WA
Default

Originally Posted by L-S-D
just a thought lol im no guru when it comes to boosting cars... jus thought maybe could find all the parts needed through ebay which i assume would be less than a retail kit lol the only problem is finding the needed parts lol
Have fun with that.
Old 10-22-09 | 03:06 AM
  #164  
ISF4life's Avatar
ISF4life
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,063
Likes: 164
From: SoCal714
Default lolz

"At the end of the day" akakkakakkakkak just get an IS350 and be happy
Old 10-22-09 | 04:41 AM
  #165  
montgb's Avatar
montgb
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 5
From: Northern VA
Default

Originally Posted by four o two
Wheel horsepower? Um, no. Jets for nitrous are ballparked for a rough figure, but it all depends on your tune as well (plugs, A/F mix, timing, etc.).
You'll notice that I typed "hp" and not whp. This is the same rule-of-thumb measurement that all the nitrous providers advertise. But thanks for keeping everyone honest.



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:30 PM.