VIDEO & Photo's - IS350 Supercharger Install
#61
Listen, I can appreciate what you guys are trying to accomplish here, but coming out and going, "Whoah brahs! Check it out! We like tooooootally built a S/C kit from scratch in 2 days! DGAF brah! Tune? Who needs it! WE GET SH_T DONE! DGAF!" seems just a tad bit laissez faire and ridiculous. What are the long term plans? Tuning options? Just because you got the thing to crank and revved it a couple times doesn't really speak well for the longevity or even the performance of the kit. Let's see some dyno #'s... hell, AFR's would be nice. Did you guys even log the thing or did you just crank her up and make some loud noises?
Once SEMA is done, I fully expect a battery of dyno tests, fine tuning, and updates. At that point we can judge the merit of the kit. Until then, we can share in the excitement that the 2IS might have a new option for boost.
Btw, calling two respected members of CL "shade-tree mechanics" isn't going to win you any style points.
#62
Thanks for the compliments doug
That means alot coming from the guy who sold me the wrong procharger unit, and refused to give me a refund not only did I lose alot of money because of you, but I had to spend even more to buy a new supercharger... and have yet to get my money back for the one that you sold me.
That means alot coming from the guy who sold me the wrong procharger unit, and refused to give me a refund not only did I lose alot of money because of you, but I had to spend even more to buy a new supercharger... and have yet to get my money back for the one that you sold me.
Last edited by ddquach; 10-18-09 at 04:53 AM.
#63
+1 on boosting the DD (happens we got the 250) and amuse ourselves daily
Phiber.. here's the thing..
1. I don't drive a race car.. I drive a Lexus.. I didn't get my IS250 expecting it to be a fast car.. I have other car's for that my 250 is my daily driver / show car
2. If I was going to trade it in for ANY other 2IS I sure as hell wouldn't trade it in for a 350, I'd go straight for an IS-F.
You are absolutely right, it would be funner boosting an IS350. But I don't have one.. I have a 250.. and it would be stupid to trade it in for a 350 just for an extra 100hp..
I rather boost my 250 for fun and have a 250 on boost (I'm not trying to race anyone or have the worlds fastest car lol)
At the end of the day, there's a handful of IS owners who would be very happy with boost for a reasonable price, being that I am an enthusiast and also in the industry.. I thought it would be nice to make a bang for the buck kit that is affordable FOR the people who want it.
There are plenty of 250 owners who would be satisfied with boosting their cars and still being slower then an IS350.. boost is boost.
lol, now enough of this debate. We can talk about it in another thread..
How about we keep this thread on topic?
1. I don't drive a race car.. I drive a Lexus.. I didn't get my IS250 expecting it to be a fast car.. I have other car's for that my 250 is my daily driver / show car
2. If I was going to trade it in for ANY other 2IS I sure as hell wouldn't trade it in for a 350, I'd go straight for an IS-F.
You are absolutely right, it would be funner boosting an IS350. But I don't have one.. I have a 250.. and it would be stupid to trade it in for a 350 just for an extra 100hp..
I rather boost my 250 for fun and have a 250 on boost (I'm not trying to race anyone or have the worlds fastest car lol)
At the end of the day, there's a handful of IS owners who would be very happy with boost for a reasonable price, being that I am an enthusiast and also in the industry.. I thought it would be nice to make a bang for the buck kit that is affordable FOR the people who want it.
There are plenty of 250 owners who would be satisfied with boosting their cars and still being slower then an IS350.. boost is boost.
lol, now enough of this debate. We can talk about it in another thread..
How about we keep this thread on topic?
#64
There will always be a first for everything in the aftermarket world. Competition is a great thing for us, the consumer, when others bring out similar products.
Look at the Exhausts that are out for the 2IS. Who was the first and how many now have similar if not identical set ups?? Certain things can only be designed one way to work even if you wanted to do something different. Where is the thread bashing the MFG's of exhaust's?
Look at the Exhausts that are out for the 2IS. Who was the first and how many now have similar if not identical set ups?? Certain things can only be designed one way to work even if you wanted to do something different. Where is the thread bashing the MFG's of exhaust's?
#65
#66
Again, it's great you threw it together and got the car to crank in 2 days... but it's a SEMA car... quite a lot of those aren't actually meant to work correctly, they just need to look like they work correctly.
K&N had a supercharged IS250 at SEMA in 2006.
It didn't run correctly, and never made into production, but it looked great at the show.
With 5 lbs of boost it won't really need "tuning", the LMS kit didn't, and there's no substantive tuning available for the 2IS anyway.
As you say though, putting a 5-lbs boost kit together for the 350 isn't rocket science, and many have done it before you.... I'm sure if you take a little time after SEMA you could make a production-ready kit... it's still almost certain to cost $100 per hp or more, though you can probably get it to come in a touch cheaper than the LMS kit was.
So it'd be great if you guys put an LMS type kit back into production for those who want to spend a ton for relatively small gains... even greater if you can cut the price a touch or eek slightly more boost out of the kit... but please don't make out like you just invented the wheel or something.
#67
This happens all the time...
Borla was the first to release a "true" dual exhaust for the 2IS. Then JoeZ had his product that was slightly different but basically used the same idea and Borla is the one that really tested and did all the R&D. This is no bash to Joe or his products but lets face the facts if Borla didn't have success with the exhaust no one would have tried to mfg. (this is an example so don't read into it)
JoeZ was the first to release the exhaust for the ISF...so then the rest will be followers right? It just goes on and on and on....
Another great example-
JoeZ was the first to have the intake tubes and Lexus now offers the same thing? I don't see anyone bashing Lexus for having a product manufactured and private labeled that someone else already did. It is slightly different but in reality its the same.
It just shows that there will always be a leader, or the first, and others will follow and either try to improve on quality or simply try to find a better way to do it. This is competition at its greatest and with out it what would we as consumers have.
We need to give credit to them for taking the risk to bring this into the market (especially this market) and if you don't think its worth the money or time why bother to post?
We are all car enthusiast at the end of the day. Some with slightly different tastes/styles but can't we just all respect each other and call it a day
#69
I know that was my point....so why the bashing for someone else to release something into this market
This happens all the time...
Borla was the first to release a "true" dual exhaust for the 2IS. Then JoeZ had his product that was slightly different but basically used the same idea and Borla is the one that really tested and did all the R&D. This is no bash to Joe or his products but lets face the facts if Borla didn't have success with the exhaust no one would have tried to mfg. (this is an example so don't read into it)
JoeZ was the first to release the exhaust for the ISF...so then the rest will be followers right? It just goes on and on and on....
Another great example-
JoeZ was the first to have the intake tubes and Lexus now offers the same thing? I don't see anyone bashing Lexus for having a product manufactured and private labeled that someone else already did. It is slightly different but in reality its the same.
It just shows that there will always be a leader, or the first, and others will follow and either try to improve on quality or simply try to find a better way to do it. This is competition at its greatest and with out it what would we as consumers have.
We need to give credit to them for taking the risk to bring this into the market (especially this market) and if you don't think its worth the money or time why bother to post?
We are all car enthusiast at the end of the day. Some with slightly different tastes/styles but can't we just all respect each other and call it a day
This happens all the time...
Borla was the first to release a "true" dual exhaust for the 2IS. Then JoeZ had his product that was slightly different but basically used the same idea and Borla is the one that really tested and did all the R&D. This is no bash to Joe or his products but lets face the facts if Borla didn't have success with the exhaust no one would have tried to mfg. (this is an example so don't read into it)
JoeZ was the first to release the exhaust for the ISF...so then the rest will be followers right? It just goes on and on and on....
Another great example-
JoeZ was the first to have the intake tubes and Lexus now offers the same thing? I don't see anyone bashing Lexus for having a product manufactured and private labeled that someone else already did. It is slightly different but in reality its the same.
It just shows that there will always be a leader, or the first, and others will follow and either try to improve on quality or simply try to find a better way to do it. This is competition at its greatest and with out it what would we as consumers have.
We need to give credit to them for taking the risk to bring this into the market (especially this market) and if you don't think its worth the money or time why bother to post?
We are all car enthusiast at the end of the day. Some with slightly different tastes/styles but can't we just all respect each other and call it a day
#70
I know that was my point....so why the bashing for someone else to release something into this market
This happens all the time...
Borla was the first to release a "true" dual exhaust for the 2IS. Then JoeZ had his product that was slightly different but basically used the same idea and Borla is the one that really tested and did all the R&D. This is no bash to Joe or his products but lets face the facts if Borla didn't have success with the exhaust no one would have tried to mfg. (this is an example so don't read into it)
JoeZ was the first to release the exhaust for the ISF...so then the rest will be followers right? It just goes on and on and on....
Another great example-
JoeZ was the first to have the intake tubes and Lexus now offers the same thing? I don't see anyone bashing Lexus for having a product manufactured and private labeled that someone else already did. It is slightly different but in reality its the same.
It just shows that there will always be a leader, or the first, and others will follow and either try to improve on quality or simply try to find a better way to do it. This is competition at its greatest and with out it what would we as consumers have.
We need to give credit to them for taking the risk to bring this into the market (especially this market) and if you don't think its worth the money or time why bother to post?
We are all car enthusiast at the end of the day. Some with slightly different tastes/styles but can't we just all respect each other and call it a day
This happens all the time...
Borla was the first to release a "true" dual exhaust for the 2IS. Then JoeZ had his product that was slightly different but basically used the same idea and Borla is the one that really tested and did all the R&D. This is no bash to Joe or his products but lets face the facts if Borla didn't have success with the exhaust no one would have tried to mfg. (this is an example so don't read into it)
JoeZ was the first to release the exhaust for the ISF...so then the rest will be followers right? It just goes on and on and on....
Another great example-
JoeZ was the first to have the intake tubes and Lexus now offers the same thing? I don't see anyone bashing Lexus for having a product manufactured and private labeled that someone else already did. It is slightly different but in reality its the same.
It just shows that there will always be a leader, or the first, and others will follow and either try to improve on quality or simply try to find a better way to do it. This is competition at its greatest and with out it what would we as consumers have.
We need to give credit to them for taking the risk to bring this into the market (especially this market) and if you don't think its worth the money or time why bother to post?
We are all car enthusiast at the end of the day. Some with slightly different tastes/styles but can't we just all respect each other and call it a day
Great work guys.... Do your thing....Forget the negativity.
Also.....
I am a car guy, we are all cars people. If someone wants to spend THEIR money on a car YOU deem unfit for power why do WE care so much? Why fight so hard in every thread to crush dreams and hopes????
Support our 250 brothers....DAMN IT
In the end this is all cool stuff to us (car folk), even if it doesnt make the CRAZY power or make sense intellectually.... Hell us car folk dont make sense to any other group out there either....
Now I am going back to the youtube video and listen to the whine and blow-off sounds....
Good Day
#71
2. If I was going to trade it in for ANY other 2IS I sure as hell wouldn't trade it in for a 350, I'd go straight for an IS-F.
You are absolutely right, it would be funner boosting an IS350. But I don't have one.. I have a 250.. and it would be stupid to trade it in for a 350 just for an extra 100hp..
I rather boost my 250 for fun and have a 250 on boost (I'm not trying to race anyone or have the worlds fastest car lol)
You are absolutely right, it would be funner boosting an IS350. But I don't have one.. I have a 250.. and it would be stupid to trade it in for a 350 just for an extra 100hp..
I rather boost my 250 for fun and have a 250 on boost (I'm not trying to race anyone or have the worlds fastest car lol)
At the end of the day, there's a handful of IS owners who would be very happy with boost for a reasonable price, being that I am an enthusiast and also in the industry.. I thought it would be nice to make a bang for the buck kit that is affordable FOR the people who want it.
There are plenty of 250 owners who would be satisfied with boosting their cars and still being slower then an IS350.. boost is boost.
There are plenty of 250 owners who would be satisfied with boosting their cars and still being slower then an IS350.. boost is boost.
#72
If your main objective is to obtain boost why even bother getting a 250? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to buy a evo/sti/335? Stock boost and retain OEM warranty. Or if your after speed it would be more reasonable to just trade in your 250 for a 350. Instead of boosting a car that still won't be faster than a 350 and may cost more to maintain.
To him, it's more for the fact of being able to say, "Yeah, my IS250 is boosted. Yours isn't."
I don't get that mentality at all. Then again, a lot of the folks in the IS community do weird things, like stretch 205 tires on a 10.5" rim, add curtains to the rear windows, and hang knots from their rearview mirrors that would make an Eagle scout cringe. All for "style" I guess. Pfffffffft.
#73
btw, before anyone jumps on ^, mind that there are allegations in previous posts that haven't been answered.
This happens all the time...
Borla was the first to release a "true" dual exhaust for the 2IS. Then JoeZ had his product that was slightly different but basically used the same idea and Borla is the one that really tested and did all the R&D. This is no bash to Joe or his products but lets face the facts if Borla didn't have success with the exhaust no one would have tried to mfg. (this is an example so don't read into it)
JoeZ was the first to release the exhaust for the ISF...so then the rest will be followers right? It just goes on and on and on....
Borla was the first to release a "true" dual exhaust for the 2IS. Then JoeZ had his product that was slightly different but basically used the same idea and Borla is the one that really tested and did all the R&D. This is no bash to Joe or his products but lets face the facts if Borla didn't have success with the exhaust no one would have tried to mfg. (this is an example so don't read into it)
JoeZ was the first to release the exhaust for the ISF...so then the rest will be followers right? It just goes on and on and on....
Another great example-
JoeZ was the first to have the intake tubes and Lexus now offers the same thing? I don't see anyone bashing Lexus for having a product manufactured and private labeled that someone else already did. It is slightly different but in reality its the same.
JoeZ was the first to have the intake tubes and Lexus now offers the same thing? I don't see anyone bashing Lexus for having a product manufactured and private labeled that someone else already did. It is slightly different but in reality its the same.
It just shows that there will always be a leader, or the first, and others will follow and either try to improve on quality or simply try to find a better way to do it. This is competition at its greatest and with out it what would we as consumers have.
We need to give credit to them for taking the risk to bring this into the market (especially this market) and if you don't think its worth the money or time why bother to post?
We are all car enthusiast at the end of the day. Some with slightly different tastes/styles but can't we just all respect each other and call it a day
#75
FIRST and for most... for everyone that is talking crap on here and making it seem like we think we made the FIRST forced induction kit for this car.. you should go back and read from page 1... WE never stated that we are the kings of the world nor that we created this first...
Do you know how many companies make exhausts for numerous vehicles that are the same concept and same exact thing.... a bunch of pipes with mufflers on it...
Would you go rag on someone who makes a cat back exhaust after another company and gets the same gains? Because, that is utterly stupid.
There is no rule anywhere that states that someone can't make a supercharger for a car because someone else already did it.. or in your terms "copied"
What about coilovers? So many companies make them, Megan LP Series and JIC Magic do the same exact thing. Does that mean that Megan copied JIC Magic?
I don't expect compliments from everyone either, this is a forum and everyone can express their views on a topic as they wish.
But there is a difference between talking ***** for no reason and expressing your view.
If you want to talk smack, get out of this thread and go start another one.
I will state this again, we did not say we were the first one's to make a supercharger kit for the IS. Tom's, LMS, and HKS were way before us.
I'm an enthusiast and would love to have forced induction on my car for fun. I'm not trying to be the fastest guy on the planet. If there is a demand for something, and no on is making anything available for consumers, someone steps it up and puts together a kit...
you guys talk smack and hate on them for doing something good?
Do you know how many companies make exhausts for numerous vehicles that are the same concept and same exact thing.... a bunch of pipes with mufflers on it...
Would you go rag on someone who makes a cat back exhaust after another company and gets the same gains? Because, that is utterly stupid.
There is no rule anywhere that states that someone can't make a supercharger for a car because someone else already did it.. or in your terms "copied"
What about coilovers? So many companies make them, Megan LP Series and JIC Magic do the same exact thing. Does that mean that Megan copied JIC Magic?
I don't expect compliments from everyone either, this is a forum and everyone can express their views on a topic as they wish.
But there is a difference between talking ***** for no reason and expressing your view.
If you want to talk smack, get out of this thread and go start another one.
I will state this again, we did not say we were the first one's to make a supercharger kit for the IS. Tom's, LMS, and HKS were way before us.
I'm an enthusiast and would love to have forced induction on my car for fun. I'm not trying to be the fastest guy on the planet. If there is a demand for something, and no on is making anything available for consumers, someone steps it up and puts together a kit...
you guys talk smack and hate on them for doing something good?
Last edited by IAMJAVEDG; 10-18-09 at 04:23 PM.