PPE V8 Headers GS, LS, SC
06-23-11, 09:08 AM
#452
Originally Posted by sakataj
dont wait on me, i havent even installed my headers im still concerned with the drivers side issue some people had. i dont wanna be all up in this and have that issue
Just contact paul and ask if your drivers side will be a problem. I got my new one for free and it fits perfect no modifying the hanger at the transmission at all. I have been driving with them for 3 days put over 400km approx 240miles alot of hard driving and they are sounding great. The tanabe helps to.
dont wait on me, i havent even installed my headers im still concerned with the drivers side issue some people had. i dont wanna be all up in this and have that issue
Just contact paul and ask if your drivers side will be a problem. I got my new one for free and it fits perfect no modifying the hanger at the transmission at all. I have been driving with them for 3 days put over 400km approx 240miles alot of hard driving and they are sounding great. The tanabe helps to.
06-23-11, 09:13 AM
#453
Just contact paul and ask if your drivers side will be a problem. I got my new one for free and it fits perfect no modifying the hanger at the transmission at all. I have been driving with them for 3 days put over 400km approx 240miles alot of hard driving and they are sounding great. The tanabe helps to.
06-23-11, 09:18 AM
#454
Lexus Champion
If you are in a position that having your car down for longer than expected due to the small posibility that there is a fitment issue is unacceptible... you could ship yours back to PPE to confirm on their jigs that nothing is out of place. The jigs are used to confirm that the part is the same as the design. Somehow one or more did not get checked after welding. Just a thought as shipping charges are minimal vs. the option.
06-23-11, 10:22 AM
#455
If you are in a position that having your car down for longer than expected due to the small posibility that there is a fitment issue is unacceptible... you could ship yours back to PPE to confirm on their jigs that nothing is out of place. The jigs are used to confirm that the part is the same as the design. Somehow one or more did not get checked after welding. Just a thought as shipping charges are minimal vs. the option.
06-23-11, 12:25 PM
#457
i think so, henry installed both as his first set for his gs400 was actually for a gs430. i know there was some difference but maybe it was cause the didnt fit the jig, i dunno
will do man. mine is too and i can afford to have it away for a weekend but cannot afford to have the OEM headers UNINSTALLED and go to fit the new headers and they dont fit and then have to reinstall the oems and hope everything works out correctly while i wait on it to be corrected.
will do man. mine is too and i can afford to have it away for a weekend but cannot afford to have the OEM headers UNINSTALLED and go to fit the new headers and they dont fit and then have to reinstall the oems and hope everything works out correctly while i wait on it to be corrected.
06-24-11, 02:09 PM
#459
As far as sending you the spec's on the Y pipe, Im not at liberty to share that info, per designer's request. I might be able to get one built for you though. You probably will want to see some dyno numbers 1st, before you decide to venture down that road.
Last edited by spdrcr771; 06-24-11 at 02:14 PM.
06-25-11, 06:49 AM
#460
Yes I am going to dyno the car after I get everything installed. It might not be real soon. I got a track day comming up @ the end of July @ Motorsport Ranch. So probably be after that. But Ill def post what differance I feel.
As far as sending you the spec's on the Y pipe, Im not at liberty to share that info, per designer's request. I might be able to get one built for you though. You probably will want to see some dyno numbers 1st, before you decide to venture down that road.
As far as sending you the spec's on the Y pipe, Im not at liberty to share that info, per designer's request. I might be able to get one built for you though. You probably will want to see some dyno numbers 1st, before you decide to venture down that road.
im assuming the designer was bcsc400? i have emailed you,jbrady,and him and i cant seem to get one....i dunno why the big secret guys, consider it just helping out a fellow enthusiast
06-25-11, 01:32 PM
#461
Lexus Champion
Actually it is my design.
I appreciate spdrc and bcsc400 keeping the details to themselves for several reasons including having to respond to some people who would likely critisize something they really do not understand.
Also execution of the design is important leading to more of the above.
I do not currently have manufacturing facilities nor time and budget to become a vendor for a low volume relatively high cost item. Also, the stock pipe works very well and most do not need to change it. It is for those that no longer have the stock pipe and want to regain the lost torque that my design is best suited as well as cars with substantial power increases due to supercharging or nitrous.
As far as dyno proof goes the BIG problem is dyno numbers, especially chassis dyno's, almost never show the RPM range we are addressing specifically 2000-4000rpm. This is the range that MOST driving is done in and the response of the engine and torque "feel" are what we are addressing. You can have a design that may give slightly higher numbers in the 4000-6300rpm range that are a dog in the lower range.
I would love to do some REAL and extensive back to back testing on the same vehicle with my design vs the stock. Should be very close in feel with peak power having a possible increase. I for one would vote to keep low and mid power/torque over a small increase in peak.
I appreciate spdrc and bcsc400 keeping the details to themselves for several reasons including having to respond to some people who would likely critisize something they really do not understand.
Also execution of the design is important leading to more of the above.
I do not currently have manufacturing facilities nor time and budget to become a vendor for a low volume relatively high cost item. Also, the stock pipe works very well and most do not need to change it. It is for those that no longer have the stock pipe and want to regain the lost torque that my design is best suited as well as cars with substantial power increases due to supercharging or nitrous.
As far as dyno proof goes the BIG problem is dyno numbers, especially chassis dyno's, almost never show the RPM range we are addressing specifically 2000-4000rpm. This is the range that MOST driving is done in and the response of the engine and torque "feel" are what we are addressing. You can have a design that may give slightly higher numbers in the 4000-6300rpm range that are a dog in the lower range.
I would love to do some REAL and extensive back to back testing on the same vehicle with my design vs the stock. Should be very close in feel with peak power having a possible increase. I for one would vote to keep low and mid power/torque over a small increase in peak.
06-25-11, 03:35 PM
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Actually it is my design.
I appreciate spdrc and bcsc400 keeping the details to themselves for several reasons including having to respond to some people who would likely critisize something they really do not understand.
Also execution of the design is important leading to more of the above.
I do not currently have manufacturing facilities nor time and budget to become a vendor for a low volume relatively high cost item. Also, the stock pipe works very well and most do not need to change it. It is for those that no longer have the stock pipe and want to regain the lost torque that my design is best suited as well as cars with substantial power increases due to supercharging or nitrous.
As far as dyno proof goes the BIG problem is dyno numbers, especially chassis dyno's, almost never show the RPM range we are addressing specifically 2000-4000rpm. This is the range that MOST driving is done in and the response of the engine and torque "feel" are what we are addressing. You can have a design that may give slightly higher numbers in the 4000-6300rpm range that are a dog in the lower range.
I would love to do some REAL and extensive back to back testing on the same vehicle with my design vs the stock. Should be very close in feel with peak power having a possible increase. I for one would vote to keep low and mid power/torque over a small increase in peak.
I appreciate spdrc and bcsc400 keeping the details to themselves for several reasons including having to respond to some people who would likely critisize something they really do not understand.
Also execution of the design is important leading to more of the above.
I do not currently have manufacturing facilities nor time and budget to become a vendor for a low volume relatively high cost item. Also, the stock pipe works very well and most do not need to change it. It is for those that no longer have the stock pipe and want to regain the lost torque that my design is best suited as well as cars with substantial power increases due to supercharging or nitrous.
As far as dyno proof goes the BIG problem is dyno numbers, especially chassis dyno's, almost never show the RPM range we are addressing specifically 2000-4000rpm. This is the range that MOST driving is done in and the response of the engine and torque "feel" are what we are addressing. You can have a design that may give slightly higher numbers in the 4000-6300rpm range that are a dog in the lower range.
I would love to do some REAL and extensive back to back testing on the same vehicle with my design vs the stock. Should be very close in feel with peak power having a possible increase. I for one would vote to keep low and mid power/torque over a small increase in peak.
06-25-11, 04:13 PM
#463
Lexus Champion
If you ever want to design a front pipe for the gs430 i would also love the design. My stock front pipe is very rotten and it has the third cat on it that i dont need. Plus it would help when i put me SC setup on in the fall. I have the ppe headers installed and the tanabe rear section i just need the front pipe. I could even do a complete cat bypass from the headers.
It is one thing to build the basic Y section. Another all together to build a full bolt in part that fits, flanges, O2 bungs and all. I have not priced a stock pipe but it is likely over $500 for the catless 400 and probably over $1000 for the catted GS430. Then there are the wrecking yards... they do not sell cats but I would think a 400 pipe would be available somewhere.
