HELP!! Any other mod??
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Hey dudes!! i was thinking if theres any other modification i can do to gain HP out of headers, intake, exhaust. I know that in the market thats probably what is on sale, im talking about custom mods to gain power, if anyone has or know, please share your ideas.
PD: Please, no Nitrous.
PD: Please, no Nitrous.
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Intake ~5 hp
Exhaust ~7-10 hp depending on which exhaust and if you care about being legal or not
PPE Headers- ~10-18 hp depending which dyno you believe
that's pretty much it if you don't want nitrous.
Oh, you could also throw on a piggyback ECU (MAPECU3 or HKS F-con Pro are known to work if set up right) but return on investment if keeping the car NA is horrible... (about 10 hp for costs in the $700-1500 range)
Well, you COULD supercharge it, but the return on investment is pretty poor there too (40-70 hp for costs in the $6000-10,000 range)
Otherwise nothing to add power, though as mentioned you can improve quickness a bit with weight reduction.
In the US anyway you're just about always better off getting a faster IS model (250->350 or 350->F) than trying to make a slow model faster.
Exhaust ~7-10 hp depending on which exhaust and if you care about being legal or not
PPE Headers- ~10-18 hp depending which dyno you believe
that's pretty much it if you don't want nitrous.
Oh, you could also throw on a piggyback ECU (MAPECU3 or HKS F-con Pro are known to work if set up right) but return on investment if keeping the car NA is horrible... (about 10 hp for costs in the $700-1500 range)
Well, you COULD supercharge it, but the return on investment is pretty poor there too (40-70 hp for costs in the $6000-10,000 range)
Otherwise nothing to add power, though as mentioned you can improve quickness a bit with weight reduction.
In the US anyway you're just about always better off getting a faster IS model (250->350 or 350->F) than trying to make a slow model faster.
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I would love to change it for an F, but since i have 3 month with mis is350 i want to keep it for a while. I have some cuestions:
1- Does a direct exhaust gives more HP than the traditional X type exhaust?? im thinking of doing a custom direct mid pipe to make it fit the F-spor exhaust and take out the Y pipe. Any suggestions
2- I dont want to use Nitrous, but just in case, does it really hurts the engine? is ok to put a 100hp system?
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1- Does a direct exhaust gives more HP than the traditional X type exhaust?? im thinking of doing a custom direct mid pipe to make it fit the F-spor exhaust and take out the Y pipe. Any suggestions
2- I dont want to use Nitrous, but just in case, does it really hurts the engine? is ok to put a 100hp system?
Thanks!
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What do you have now? Whats your budget? What do you want to accomplish (how much power)? You can "easily" put together a supercharger kit for <$5k and run ~7psi and have more fun, but not make crazy power.
Procharger blower - $2300
Intercooler - $Couple hundred
BOV - $Couple hundred
Intercooler piping - $Depends, not crazy though. Only pipe that has "complex bends" is the one off the throttle body or the one that wraps around the front and holds a BOV I'd say.
Couplers/Clamps - $100-200
Supercharger mounting bracket - $Custom made. But with help of forum members, pictures or a good shop, it should be attainable, I'm unsure of what a "going rate" would be though.
Air Filter - $50
I'm hoping they get it tuned too, for yalls sake! I get updates from them through texts occasionally, waiting for that monumental text that will change the F world!
Procharger blower - $2300
Intercooler - $Couple hundred
BOV - $Couple hundred
Intercooler piping - $Depends, not crazy though. Only pipe that has "complex bends" is the one off the throttle body or the one that wraps around the front and holds a BOV I'd say.
Couplers/Clamps - $100-200
Supercharger mounting bracket - $Custom made. But with help of forum members, pictures or a good shop, it should be attainable, I'm unsure of what a "going rate" would be though.
Air Filter - $50
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What do you have now? Whats your budget? What do you want to accomplish (how much power)? You can "easily" put together a supercharger kit for <$5k and run ~7psi and have more fun, but not make crazy power.
Procharger blower - $2300
Intercooler - $Couple hundred
BOV - $Couple hundred
Intercooler piping - $Depends, not crazy though. Only pipe that has "complex bends" is the one off the throttle body or the one that wraps around the front and holds a BOV I'd say.
Couplers/Clamps - $100-200
Supercharger mounting bracket - $Custom made. But with help of forum members, pictures or a good shop, it should be attainable, I'm unsure of what a "going rate" would be though.
Air Filter - $50
I'm hoping they get it tuned too, for yalls sake! I get updates from them through texts occasionally, waiting for that monumental text that will change the F world!![Cool](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
Procharger blower - $2300
Intercooler - $Couple hundred
BOV - $Couple hundred
Intercooler piping - $Depends, not crazy though. Only pipe that has "complex bends" is the one off the throttle body or the one that wraps around the front and holds a BOV I'd say.
Couplers/Clamps - $100-200
Supercharger mounting bracket - $Custom made. But with help of forum members, pictures or a good shop, it should be attainable, I'm unsure of what a "going rate" would be though.
Air Filter - $50
I'm hoping they get it tuned too, for yalls sake! I get updates from them through texts occasionally, waiting for that monumental text that will change the F world!
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I'd add that the only folks who have successfully run 7 psi (and actually run that much, not just babied the engine) also used aftermarket engine management like a MAPECU3 or F-con pro, adding another $700-1500 to the build.
And that's all assuming you can do your own labor on the whole kit, and the tuning as well.
On a 350 in particular I'm only aware of one build that ran 7 psi sustained, and that was HKS350, who used the HKS kit and the F-con Pro, a setup that goes well north of $5000 unless you're finding a used one with free tuning... Elias is running 7 on a 250 mainly because he's running a 350 kit on a 250.
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Subject variation but I beat up 7 psi pretty faithfully for the week or so I ran it. After a few bumps the ecu leveled off and 7 lbs wasn't so taboo. Keep in mind it's a s/c so max psi is coming pretty damn near close to redline...Personally, I ventured to assume a 7 psi system was more like a 6.5psi setup being that I wasn't redlining thru the gears.
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I'd add that the only folks who have successfully run 7 psi (and actually run that much, not just babied the engine) also used aftermarket engine management like a MAPECU3 or F-con pro, adding another $700-1500 to the build.
And that's all assuming you can do your own labor on the whole kit, and the tuning as well.
On a 350 in particular I'm only aware of one build that ran 7 psi sustained, and that was HKS350, who used the HKS kit and the F-con Pro, a setup that goes well north of $5000 unless you're finding a used one with free tuning... Elias is running 7 on a 250 mainly because he's running a 350 kit on a 250.
And that's all assuming you can do your own labor on the whole kit, and the tuning as well.
On a 350 in particular I'm only aware of one build that ran 7 psi sustained, and that was HKS350, who used the HKS kit and the F-con Pro, a setup that goes well north of $5000 unless you're finding a used one with free tuning... Elias is running 7 on a 250 mainly because he's running a 350 kit on a 250.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/per...stalled-3.html
And also swapping pulleys to down your boost a tad is only $80. Still just tired of seeing boosting as "not an option" for the 2IS. I always agree that it's not an option for most, but for some, it is worth it.
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FWIW Pepos ran 7psi for 25,000 miles according to his build thread with nothing more than water/meth injection, another fairly cheap addition to the parts list before he ever opted to use mapecu3.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/per...stalled-3.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/per...stalled-3.html
It'd be silly to say it's not an option at all though, given folks have been doing it since the first LMS kit 5+ years ago.
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