RMM Supercharger kit for GS400 released.
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Guys, come on. Let's keep it civil, and keep the new information flowing in a positive fashion.
Comparisions are good, even though not always apples to apples, they can bring to light some good data.
Comparisions are good, even though not always apples to apples, they can bring to light some good data.
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Originally posted by Gstt
with just a SRT chip + ECU i got 265RWH + 265RWTQ.
with just a SRT chip + ECU i got 265RWH + 265RWTQ.
RMMBlair In an earlier correspondance you'd mentioned that only a limited number of these SCs were going to be produced and that they would be discontinued. Any word on excatly how many will be available and what kind of support can be expected on them long term?
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Originally posted by DaveGS4
RMMBlair In an earlier correspondance you'd mentioned that only a limited number of these SCs were going to be produced and that they would be discontinued. Any word on excatly how many will be available and what kind of support can be expected on them long term?
RMMBlair In an earlier correspondance you'd mentioned that only a limited number of these SCs were going to be produced and that they would be discontinued. Any word on excatly how many will be available and what kind of support can be expected on them long term?
As always, I'm more interested in letting the clock tick on my warranty before I make a radical change like this. Makes me wonder if there will still be any "super sedan" level mods for the GS430 when I'm ready to apply them...
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Originally posted by jeffandi
First, nobody has said anything about torque yet. RMMBlair has only quoted HP and the chart on Rod Millen's site is stock HP vs. SC HP.
Can't you tell the difference between a torque curve and a HP curve? If not maybe you should keep your 02 cents and buy some education. I'm sorry but I get tired of people like you who crap all over somebody's work without even knowing what the heck they're talking about.
Second, SRT does not make or sell superchargers anymore, just a $30k twin turbo. Sorry, not for me.
Third, from BMW website for M5:
Nominal output/rpm
hp
394/6600
Max. torque/rpm
lb-ft
368/3800
MSRP $70,400
Now for GS400 + RMM SC:
340hp (at wheels) with SC, 250hp (at wheels) stock = 36% increase
if we apply this 36% increase to the flywheel numbers we get
408hp
GS430(for price comparison only) MSRP = 48,400
+ 6,500 SC = $55,100
Less money AND run with an M5? sign me up.
Jeff
First, nobody has said anything about torque yet. RMMBlair has only quoted HP and the chart on Rod Millen's site is stock HP vs. SC HP.
Can't you tell the difference between a torque curve and a HP curve? If not maybe you should keep your 02 cents and buy some education. I'm sorry but I get tired of people like you who crap all over somebody's work without even knowing what the heck they're talking about.
Second, SRT does not make or sell superchargers anymore, just a $30k twin turbo. Sorry, not for me.
Third, from BMW website for M5:
Nominal output/rpm
hp
394/6600
Max. torque/rpm
lb-ft
368/3800
MSRP $70,400
Now for GS400 + RMM SC:
340hp (at wheels) with SC, 250hp (at wheels) stock = 36% increase
if we apply this 36% increase to the flywheel numbers we get
408hp
GS430(for price comparison only) MSRP = 48,400
+ 6,500 SC = $55,100
Less money AND run with an M5? sign me up.
Jeff
LEts get something straight here:
WHo puts a supercharger on the market and only quotes u on the HP???????
I based everything on that ridiculous dyno.
FIrst of all, your comparing apples to oranges.
( think your smart????? U talk a lot of ***** son)
I was not putting down their SC system, I just said with those numbers and that price i wouldn't buy one.
SRT is their KING, too bad they don't offer their SC system no more.
U think U know what u talking about???? U are quoting me on a M5's specs, Please!.
My neighbour has one, we race all the time, DO u understand how fast a M5 is????? + 6spd manual.
No matter what, his car is designed to beat yours, it has a crazy LSD, crazy gear ratio that your gs can't match. Plus it does almost 13sec Flat in 1/4mile. BUDDY, SRT stage 3 with 430RWH + 400RWTQ could beat that, only by and inch or so....
(many factors, like driving, traction,....)
DOn't give me Hp figures of a web site,
GO study your ***** and then come back....
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PLUS for the other idiot that bad mouthed me, BUDDy, who said anything about GS400TT??? Can u read??? check history son,
U think $6,500 is all for the SC??? NO NO NO, U need a Torque convertor my friend, and LSD, Valve body upgrade for your tranny, plus other tranny upgrades, PLUS TUNING.... now the price jumps over 10g's.
PLease i got a GS400 myself, Unless your planning on doing something nice, don't compare the price of the gs to an M5.
your car will be in the same price range if u do it right and set up all other things needed. ie: 6piston brakes, Wide tires, nice suspension. WHICH a gs doesn't have stock...)
your comparing two different cars,
So go, do your little research, learn what you are saying and come back when u know, aight??
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How the heck did this turn so combatitive?! RMM formally released their supercharger and we're asking questions about it. Praise SRT's superchargers all you want, but they're not a viable alternative any longer.
I certainly appreciate your criticisms, GSTT, but there's a way to present them that doesn't invoke the response you invoked. Please have a little respect for those of us who are genuinely interested in the product and don't derail this thread by attacking not only RMM, but also other people on thread.
Can we get back to the point which is discussing the product itself?
I certainly appreciate your criticisms, GSTT, but there's a way to present them that doesn't invoke the response you invoked. Please have a little respect for those of us who are genuinely interested in the product and don't derail this thread by attacking not only RMM, but also other people on thread.
Can we get back to the point which is discussing the product itself?
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1. I just sold another one yesterday. I believe that leaves us with about 19 systems left. As far as long term goes, all of the parts can still be reproduced if needed. We have all the fictures still, so we could do it if we needed to. The main reason we are not making them anymore is because it just cost too much money and time for us to produce kits. So anyone that wants them, they may have to step it up a little.
2. About the dyno graph, I personally do not think that the ECU would be acting so slow that it would show up on the dyno. If it was going back and for like that it would be doing it 4 or 5 times a second. But the real reason its like that is because the dyno that UPRD had was supposed to be some high tech, super accurate $300,000 dyno. All of our graphs looked like that for all the cars. I don't really know why.
3. You may think its stupid, but we do not do 1/4 mile times. Nobody working here likes drag racing so we've never done it. F1 or WRC Rally for sure, but not drag racing. I guess thats the result of working for a rally base comapny.
2. About the dyno graph, I personally do not think that the ECU would be acting so slow that it would show up on the dyno. If it was going back and for like that it would be doing it 4 or 5 times a second. But the real reason its like that is because the dyno that UPRD had was supposed to be some high tech, super accurate $300,000 dyno. All of our graphs looked like that for all the cars. I don't really know why.
3. You may think its stupid, but we do not do 1/4 mile times. Nobody working here likes drag racing so we've never done it. F1 or WRC Rally for sure, but not drag racing. I guess thats the result of working for a rally base comapny.
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ok guys, couple of things here. this is a thread about the release of the SC kit, stay on topic, talk about it, fine. if you want to talk about all the comparion, how good this is, how bad that is, start another thread so this thread can stay on topic
second, i have no problem with constructive discussion, but keep all the heat to yourself. don't put any heat in the thread with discussion. no more foul lanuage or sentences, ok?
third, to rmmblair, it would be really useful if we can know the tq number
second, i have no problem with constructive discussion, but keep all the heat to yourself. don't put any heat in the thread with discussion. no more foul lanuage or sentences, ok?
third, to rmmblair, it would be really useful if we can know the tq number
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JeffandI / GSTT:
Please refrain from any additional personal commentary or attacks in this thread as Rominl requested.
Let's keep this an informative thread as it started and get CL members details on the RMM SC. Anything else, take it to PM.
Please refrain from any additional personal commentary or attacks in this thread as Rominl requested.
Let's keep this an informative thread as it started and get CL members details on the RMM SC. Anything else, take it to PM.
Last edited by DaveGS4; 01-16-03 at 06:22 PM.