is350 vs 328i and Iroc z camaro 1/4 mile
04-26-14, 12:19 PM
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Ok maybe there is a slight misunderstanding here. Just as an example the conversion factor from mph to fps(feet per second) = 1.4666. A trap speed of 101mph is roughly 148.1266 feet/sec traveled. My point of "kill" is this, .5secs is roughly equal to 74 feet if trap speed is 101mph, SO at .2 sec is roughly about 29.62532 feet. The length of a 2013 Lexus isx50 is 180.3in = 15.025feet... thats almost 2 car lengths and in drag racing terms thats a lot! Shoot half a car is already a lot. hence I use the term "can KILL an is350" SO again brings my point you had a .245s reaction time. What if he had the same reaction time as you? Then he would have killed your time in the quarter mile, trap speed and 0-60. (.898 -.245s -.2( for the diffence you had)) = .453s difference (x) 148.1266fps (assuming that 101 again is the general trap speed) is roughly 67.101 feet difference or 4.5 lexus isx50 car lengths. I hope that clarifies better especially to most of you that drag race because that .1 sec is a lot and any drag racer knows that its takes a lot to get a car to improve a .1s difference.
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I just want you guys to know the reasoning behind my comment since you are all so easy to jump the gun and say that my comment was completely off. Again I still like the NA is350 than a turbo 335i stock hands down but facts don't lie. A good driver still makes a world of difference.
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I just want you guys to know the reasoning behind my comment since you are all so easy to jump the gun and say that my comment was completely off. Again I still like the NA is350 than a turbo 335i stock hands down but facts don't lie. A good driver still makes a world of difference.
04-26-14, 02:50 PM
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wait. wait wait... it depends there are a different types of drag racing. If you do bracket racing, competetion or heads up drag race then yes actually it does matter and it matters a lot. If you are racing by yourself to fine tune your car or just playing around or just comparing numbers then yes reaction times don't matter.
Did you know C/D rated a 335i for Standing ¼-mile: 13.4 sec @ 106 mph and another one at 13.6 @ 104 when again the best times I have seen an is350 is about 13.8-13-9 stock in person. I think even someone here even reported 13.7. C/D tested the is350 running 13.7 at 104 and another is350 14 @102... regardless its all in the driver but honestly drive a 335i, borrow one if you can and run it on the track you will notice a big difference.
Did you know C/D rated a 335i for Standing ¼-mile: 13.4 sec @ 106 mph and another one at 13.6 @ 104 when again the best times I have seen an is350 is about 13.8-13-9 stock in person. I think even someone here even reported 13.7. C/D tested the is350 running 13.7 at 104 and another is350 14 @102... regardless its all in the driver but honestly drive a 335i, borrow one if you can and run it on the track you will notice a big difference.
04-26-14, 04:27 PM
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Like I said before there is a misunderstanding you are talking about drag racing based on self timed drag and I was talking about competition based like bracket times where every second counts.
My point Car and Driver, Motortrend and all those reputable magazines that have professionals time and time again actually test it proves that 335i is faster. again you even see the time differences of .2-.4 but all of which depends on the driver.
My point Car and Driver, Motortrend and all those reputable magazines that have professionals time and time again actually test it proves that 335i is faster. again you even see the time differences of .2-.4 but all of which depends on the driver.
04-26-14, 10:13 PM
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You are comparing against thw older 335i. I said the new one.
And if the other guy had barely beat the 335i just based on reaction how much more can the 335. Beat the is350 if he had the same reaction time as you?..
Dont get me wrong guys i like is350 too but the new 335i can do 0-60.in 4.6 while the best ive seen stock is350 is at 4.8-4.9.
In the end it really depends on the driver but I still give props to the is350 that can be so fast without having the need for turbo at least for now.. Since recent talks are about having turbos for future models.
And if the other guy had barely beat the 335i just based on reaction how much more can the 335. Beat the is350 if he had the same reaction time as you?..
Dont get me wrong guys i like is350 too but the new 335i can do 0-60.in 4.6 while the best ive seen stock is350 is at 4.8-4.9.
In the end it really depends on the driver but I still give props to the is350 that can be so fast without having the need for turbo at least for now.. Since recent talks are about having turbos for future models.
My friend's IS350 ran 13.2 sec in a quarter mile.
FYI 2014' 335i still uses a twin turbo and not a single turbo.
04-27-14, 06:40 PM
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The true performance of a car should be judged on REAL track like the Nurburgring or something similar, not just 0-60 or drag race which is all just straight line. Damn, the race in the video is pretty fun. I wish there will be more people interested in real sprint race like this and I wish we have something like this in US. This kind of race is what we should be talking about.
Look at these two IS250 on real track
We want to find both the IS and the 3 series on the same track such as the Nurburgring and see what time they have... that will give the real conclusion.
Look at these two IS250 on real track
We want to find both the IS and the 3 series on the same track such as the Nurburgring and see what time they have... that will give the real conclusion.
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04-28-14, 03:09 AM
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I thought I already established that several times saying that it all depends on the driver. But 13.2 stock
please show proof.
04-28-14, 10:13 AM
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really 13.2... i dont believe that. a .2 difference from 13.7 yes thats definitely plausible but 13.2 stock that's bs he has something upgraded.
I thought I already established that several times saying that it all depends on the driver. But 13.2 stock please show proof.
I thought I already established that several times saying that it all depends on the driver. But 13.2 stock
please show proof.
04-28-14, 10:18 AM
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Dude.. you all talking about tracking and drag times.. tenth of a seconds faster etc. Then saying 335i is so much better than the 2is is350 BUT yet you drive a is250 smh
Just cause you read road & track and motortrend magazines you think you know so much about cars? LOL
Dude.. you all talking about tracking and drag times.. tenth of a seconds faster etc. Then saying 335i is so much better than the 2is is350 BUT yet you drive a is250 smh
Just cause you read road & track and motortrend magazines you think you know so much about cars? LOL
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04-28-14, 02:26 PM
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I think you totally MISUNDERSTAND lol.
First, I'm a big fan of Lexus and I love the IS and not the bimmer.
Second, I don't say the 335i is better than the IS350. In fact, it is the other way around. I chose IS350 over the 335i because of several reasons and reliability being one of them. So I would say our IS350 is so much better than the 335i at least in term of look and reliability.
Third, I drive both IS250 and IS350 on a daily basis.
Take a chill pill and calm down man. Read before you start bashing someone lol.
First, I'm a big fan of Lexus and I love the IS and not the bimmer.
Second, I don't say the 335i is better than the IS350. In fact, it is the other way around. I chose IS350 over the 335i because of several reasons and reliability being one of them. So I would say our IS350 is so much better than the 335i at least in term of look and reliability.
Third, I drive both IS250 and IS350 on a daily basis.
Take a chill pill and calm down man. Read before you start bashing someone lol.
04-28-14, 02:41 PM
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I think you totally MISUNDERSTAND lol.
First, I'm a big fan of Lexus and I love the IS and not the bimmer.
Second, I don't say the 335i is better than the IS350. In fact, it is the other way around. I chose IS350 over the 335i because of several reasons and reliability being one of them. So I would say our IS350 is so much better than the 335i at least in term of look and reliability.
Third, I drive both IS250 and IS350 on a daily basis.
Take a chill pill and calm down man. Read before you start bashing someone lol.
First, I'm a big fan of Lexus and I love the IS and not the bimmer.
Second, I don't say the 335i is better than the IS350. In fact, it is the other way around. I chose IS350 over the 335i because of several reasons and reliability being one of them. So I would say our IS350 is so much better than the 335i at least in term of look and reliability.
Third, I drive both IS250 and IS350 on a daily basis.
Take a chill pill and calm down man. Read before you start bashing someone lol.
05-01-14, 01:57 PM
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really 13.2... i dont believe that. a .2 difference from 13.7 yes thats definitely plausible but 13.2 stock that's bs he has something upgraded.
I thought I already established that several times saying that it all depends on the driver. But 13.2 stock please show proof.
I thought I already established that several times saying that it all depends on the driver. But 13.2 stock
please show proof.With two bolt-ons, Intake/exhaust (which barely gives any gains on the IS350) maybe 10whp, and a member here with his IS350 ran a 12.8 @ 109 mph. Check out that trap!
As a previous owner of two 335i's before, one was an 08 with the N54 twin, and one was my gf's (at the time) 2010 335i with the N55 single, I can confidently say the IS350 and 335i is definitely a drivers race in the 1/4.
The reason why you think your friend's new 335i feels so fast is (my guess) A: The N55 has a very broad powerband, maximum torque is available I think almost right after idle and pulls very strong from low to mid range but definitely runs out of steam up top. B: You're coming from an IS250 so pretty much anything that runs 14s and below would feel super duper fast.
The IS350 can't match the 335i's torque curve but it's blessed by having nice aggressive gearing, off the line the IS350 feels actually quicker than my stock 335i. The IS350 pulls strong after that, all the way to redline without letting up, just don't get caught under 4k RPMS in the IS350, this motor loves the upper rev range.
They kept the same N55 single turbo motor for the F30 but just added an 8 spd auto. I'm sure the gearing helps make it a little quicker but it won't "kill" an E90 powered by the same N55 motor with just a 6spd AT just like it won't "kill" an IS350.
05-01-14, 02:59 PM
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THIS!!! Very good points RSXiMUS!!!For people like azfsprt, when you only drive a IS250 and then test drive a 335i thinking it will "kill" IS350. This will NOT happen. It can win but it cannot kill. Stock to stock, it is a driver's race and as some would agree, IS350 actually pulls very strong from the very beginning due to aggressive gearing. Test drive the IS350 first before bashing it.
I think it was Motortrend that got a 13.5 stock from an IS350? That's a magazine too so in the hands of owners I'd say 13.2 is very possible, in fact I think a couple owners on here did low 13s bone stock.
With two bolt-ons, Intake/exhaust (which barely gives any gains on the IS350) maybe 10whp, and a member here with his IS350 ran a 12.8 @ 109 mph. Check out that trap!
As a previous owner of two 335i's before, one was an 08 with the N54 twin, and one was my gf's (at the time) 2010 335i with the N55 single, I can confidently say the IS350 and 335i is definitely a drivers race in the 1/4.
The reason why you think your friend's new 335i feels so fast is (my guess) A: The N55 has a very broad powerband, maximum torque is available I think almost right after idle and pulls very strong from low to mid range but definitely runs out of steam up top. B: You're coming from an IS250 so pretty much anything that runs 14s and below would feel super duper fast.
The IS350 can't match the 335i's torque curve but it's blessed by having nice aggressive gearing, off the line the IS350 feels actually quicker than my stock 335i. The IS350 pulls strong after that, all the way to redline without letting up, just don't get caught under 4k RPMS in the IS350, this motor loves the upper rev range.
They kept the same N55 single turbo motor for the F30 but just added an 8 spd auto. I'm sure the gearing helps make it a little quicker but it won't "kill" an E90 powered by the same N55 motor with just a 6spd AT just like it won't "kill" an IS350.
With two bolt-ons, Intake/exhaust (which barely gives any gains on the IS350) maybe 10whp, and a member here with his IS350 ran a 12.8 @ 109 mph. Check out that trap!
As a previous owner of two 335i's before, one was an 08 with the N54 twin, and one was my gf's (at the time) 2010 335i with the N55 single, I can confidently say the IS350 and 335i is definitely a drivers race in the 1/4.
The reason why you think your friend's new 335i feels so fast is (my guess) A: The N55 has a very broad powerband, maximum torque is available I think almost right after idle and pulls very strong from low to mid range but definitely runs out of steam up top. B: You're coming from an IS250 so pretty much anything that runs 14s and below would feel super duper fast.
The IS350 can't match the 335i's torque curve but it's blessed by having nice aggressive gearing, off the line the IS350 feels actually quicker than my stock 335i. The IS350 pulls strong after that, all the way to redline without letting up, just don't get caught under 4k RPMS in the IS350, this motor loves the upper rev range.
They kept the same N55 single turbo motor for the F30 but just added an 8 spd auto. I'm sure the gearing helps make it a little quicker but it won't "kill" an E90 powered by the same N55 motor with just a 6spd AT just like it won't "kill" an IS350.