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Old 05-30-14, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by scott1256c
is there a reason everyone talks about rotational mass, but no one talks about moment of inertia? After all, if your talking about increasing the rotation of a wheel as quickly as possible, isn't that more important?
You just blew my mind! I just wanna go fast!
Old 05-30-14, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by scott1256c
is there a reason everyone talks about rotational mass, but no one talks about moment of inertia? After all, if your talking about increasing the rotation of a wheel as quickly as possible, isn't that more important?
same thing, lowering rotational mass lowers moment of inertia.
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Actually, it isn't the same thing. Dropping 1 lb. off the weight of a wheel will only improve the MOI if the lb dropped doesn't mean a shift of the rest of the weight towards the edge of the rim.
IOW 1 lb (adding or subtracting) close to the axle is nearly meaningless (i.e. aluminium lugs) but 1 lb at the tread or the edge of the rim is meaningful. And FYI, I purchased some aluminium lugs I just don't expect any difference in performance

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Old 05-30-14, 11:38 AM
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This here has turned into something I've not often read on CL...science! LOL
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Originally Posted by scott1256c
is there a reason everyone talks about rotational mass, but no one talks about moment of inertia? After all, if your talking about increasing the rotation of a wheel as quickly as possible, isn't that more important?
Because Club Lexus.

The only real way to significantly reduce rotational inertia is to get smaller (light weigh) wheels. Start talking about smaller wheels around here and all three of us who are really willing to do such a thing will get flamed.
Old 05-31-14, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WylieKylie
Because Club Lexus.

The only real way to significantly reduce rotational inertia is to get smaller (light weigh) wheels. Start talking about smaller wheels around here and all three of us who are really willing to do such a thing will get flamed.
lol pretty much! Don't do a light weight battery, s/c, etc. either! Just stick to speakers, skinny passengers and fancy pillows. Haha

I need to make up weight savings wherever I can since I have two kids/car seats.
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^ lol You must have the thread on my new (light) battery!
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Just ordered me some new forged steel lugs @ 36 grams/pc. Powder coated neo-chrome yo...bad tyte JDM nuts! Did I mention they were 25% off?
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The only real way to significantly reduce rotational inertia is to get smaller (light weigh) wheels. Start talking about smaller wheels around here and all three of us who are really willing to do such a thing will get flamed.
Hey, I didn't bring it up.
Yesterday, just for the hell of it, I went to find out what size rims are used in drag racing and F1. Looks like drag use 15" or 16" rims as about the largest, and of course the tires themselves are much larger, but when you look at the barrel, it is much smaller than 16". F1 I think works out to just over 14" rims. F1 didn't surprise me, but until I saw the barrel, 16" was a little higher than i expected. When I went shopping for rims, i decided to stay with 18 because of looks. For perf. I was considering 17.
I think rotors like Mike mentioned and the tires themselves are about the only other thing that is going to make much difference past the transmission anyway.
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Originally Posted by scott1256c
Hey, I didn't bring it up.
Touché but since I am one of the guys who did get smaller wheels, and a lightweight battery I'm used to it.

In most road racing classes (including F1) the wheel size is dictated by the rules. Usually it is done to limit costs, but in F1 it ended up having the opposite effect. To get the necessary braking power with a small disk / wheel all the teams started using super expensive carbon-carbon brakes.
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lightweight wheels didn't do crap for more. just made me break loose easier when drifting. tried on this car and my old car. maybe gave me a tenth of a second on the drag strip. maybe. and i dropped from a 50lb setup to a 42lb setup wheel and tire.
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Originally Posted by rayac88
lightweight wheels didn't do crap for more. just made me break loose easier when drifting. tried on this car and my old car. maybe gave me a tenth of a second on the drag strip. maybe. and i dropped from a 50lb setup to a 42lb setup wheel and tire.
i disagee, just putting on volks made a noticeable difference in speed, take off, etc. will make the car faster then putting an exhaust + intake
pair it with 2 piece rotors and you'll really notice it
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how much lighter are 2 piece rotors?
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nice test here u go
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Originally Posted by peyman
i disagee, just putting on volks made a noticeable difference in speed, take off, etc. will make the car faster then putting an exhaust + intake
pair it with 2 piece rotors and you'll really notice it
do you have track times to show the difference? the car is more responsive but it didnt get me from point a to b much quicker based on 1/8 mile runs.
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