IS200t tune
04-14-20, 07:52 PM
#4516
did not know that, but that's super annoying. i think i'm going to steer away from the tune only because i've been reading various discussions online and have come across things like,
"It (a tune) can have an effect depending on how you drive it. Tunes also adjust knock retard, timing, and fuel trims for different operating temps. I would say a stock engine will out live a tuned engine. Hence why tuning an engine voids the warranty."
and
"It drives me crazy when people do not use common sense.. it’s that whole "a flame that burns twice as bright" deal. If Acura could keep the motor running longer and safer with a better tune they would. These cars are detuned for a reason. Apply common sense and not a point you are trying to prove here."
and
"But the question was does the tune shorten the life of an engine. And the answer in most cases is yes."
and
"So you're saying driving a car stock vs a car with a leaner mixture, advanced timing, increased rev limiter, and different fuel trim strategies will last the same? No."
i'm planning on keeping this car longterm, so i think i'll just live with the stock hp and tq. i came from a 250 anyhow, so this is an upgrade. haha
"It (a tune) can have an effect depending on how you drive it. Tunes also adjust knock retard, timing, and fuel trims for different operating temps. I would say a stock engine will out live a tuned engine. Hence why tuning an engine voids the warranty."
and
"It drives me crazy when people do not use common sense.. it’s that whole "a flame that burns twice as bright" deal. If Acura could keep the motor running longer and safer with a better tune they would. These cars are detuned for a reason. Apply common sense and not a point you are trying to prove here."
and
"But the question was does the tune shorten the life of an engine. And the answer in most cases is yes."
and
"So you're saying driving a car stock vs a car with a leaner mixture, advanced timing, increased rev limiter, and different fuel trim strategies will last the same? No."
i'm planning on keeping this car longterm, so i think i'll just live with the stock hp and tq. i came from a 250 anyhow, so this is an upgrade. haha
BMS is a reputable company with reputable products. Many BMW owners are loyal to BMS and their JB4 piggy back. I had no problems with my Stage 1 tune and if BMS had a flash tune, I'd go for it.
The difference between Stage 1 and JB4 is mainly that Stage 1 was a set piggy back tune, no changing it, you were on the map it came with. JB4 is essentially the same thing but with more possibilities as it has more maps loaded and I believe you can create your own. There's a little more to installing it compared to Stage 1, but if I didn't have an OVTune, I'd go with JB4.
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davyjordi (04-14-20)
04-15-20, 03:27 AM
#4517
Pole Position
So, I went ahead and purchased the Tom's Racing Powerbox for the IS300 from Apexi. They only gave me one shipping option, although advised to call in later today to see if there were any additional shipping methods that may be quicker than ground shipping. They (Apexi) are located in OC and I'm not that far away from their headquarters, but I don't know if their warehouse is there or if they have to order the part from Japan.
The main reason I went with Tom's over BMS is the strong relationship that Tom's has historically had with Toyota as an official tuner to many of their vehicles, Lexus vehicles included.
The instruction guide isn't available online like it is with the BMS module, so when it arrives I might need help putting this together.
Thanks to all who commented and guided me along as I super, ultra cautiously approached my first tune.
The main reason I went with Tom's over BMS is the strong relationship that Tom's has historically had with Toyota as an official tuner to many of their vehicles, Lexus vehicles included.
The instruction guide isn't available online like it is with the BMS module, so when it arrives I might need help putting this together.
Thanks to all who commented and guided me along as I super, ultra cautiously approached my first tune.
04-15-20, 04:33 AM
#4518
Pole Position
So, I went ahead and purchased the Tom's Racing Powerbox for the IS300 from Apexi. They only gave me one shipping option, although advised to call in later today to see if there were any additional shipping methods that may be quicker than ground shipping. They (Apexi) are located in OC and I'm not that far away from their headquarters, but I don't know if their warehouse is there or if they have to order the part from Japan.
The main reason I went with Tom's over BMS is the strong relationship that Tom's has historically had with Toyota as an official tuner to many of their vehicles, Lexus vehicles included.
The instruction guide isn't available online like it is with the BMS module, so when it arrives I might need help putting this together.
Thanks to all who commented and guided me along as I super, ultra cautiously approached my first tune.
The main reason I went with Tom's over BMS is the strong relationship that Tom's has historically had with Toyota as an official tuner to many of their vehicles, Lexus vehicles included.
The instruction guide isn't available online like it is with the BMS module, so when it arrives I might need help putting this together.
Thanks to all who commented and guided me along as I super, ultra cautiously approached my first tune.
04-15-20, 08:23 AM
#4519
Pole Position
oh, also that tom's works with toyota and lexus pretty much exclusively if not exclusively was also reassuring, while bms works with, like, every make and model under the sun. i feel like more attention to detail went into the tom's tune even if it's not quite as robust as the bms one, which is fine with me.
04-15-20, 09:09 AM
#4520
Pole Position
lol, i dunno, man. things happen lol. no, but seriously, i thought that the specs for the tom's box were really mild and wouldn't put an excessive amount of undue stress on the engine. that, and that i can unplug it if i run into problems and take it to the dealer with an innocent face to have it fixed is comforting.
oh, also that tom's works with toyota and lexus pretty much exclusively if not exclusively was also reassuring, while bms works with, like, every make and model under the sun. i feel like more attention to detail went into the tom's tune even if it's not quite as robust as the bms one, which is fine with me.
oh, also that tom's works with toyota and lexus pretty much exclusively if not exclusively was also reassuring, while bms works with, like, every make and model under the sun. i feel like more attention to detail went into the tom's tune even if it's not quite as robust as the bms one, which is fine with me.
04-15-20, 09:32 AM
#4521
Pole Position
Well you won’t regret the extra torque I promise. Also, someone from OV tuning had stated they spoke to a Toyota/Lexus engineer who worked on our engine (the 8AR-FTS) and said that the engine stock could easily handle much more power with no issues due to how well they reinforced it for forced induction. That put my mind at ease about the whole longevity part.
04-15-20, 12:32 PM
#4522
Intermediate
Well you won’t regret the extra torque I promise. Also, someone from OV tuning had stated they spoke to a Toyota/Lexus engineer who worked on our engine (the 8AR-FTS) and said that the engine stock could easily handle much more power with no issues due to how well they reinforced it for forced induction. That put my mind at ease about the whole longevity part.
yeah, i totally believe 100% that toyota put a ton of r&d into how to best reinforce the engine to withstand the turbocharger's forced induction given toyota/lexus' reputation for building reliable and dependable products. they don't wanna give that up and i think that's why 1. this engine was so late to market and 2. why it's so underpowered compared to the competition.
04-15-20, 02:01 PM
#4523
Well you won’t regret the extra torque I promise. Also, someone from OV tuning had stated they spoke to a Toyota/Lexus engineer who worked on our engine (the 8AR-FTS) and said that the engine stock could easily handle much more power with no issues due to how well they reinforced it for forced induction. That put my mind at ease about the whole longevity part.
04-15-20, 08:22 PM
#4524
lol, i dunno, man. things happen lol. no, but seriously, i thought that the specs for the tom's box were really mild and wouldn't put an excessive amount of undue stress on the engine. that, and that i can unplug it if i run into problems and take it to the dealer with an innocent face to have it fixed is comforting.
oh, also that tom's works with toyota and lexus pretty much exclusively if not exclusively was also reassuring, while bms works with, like, every make and model under the sun. i feel like more attention to detail went into the tom's tune even if it's not quite as robust as the bms one, which is fine with me.
oh, also that tom's works with toyota and lexus pretty much exclusively if not exclusively was also reassuring, while bms works with, like, every make and model under the sun. i feel like more attention to detail went into the tom's tune even if it's not quite as robust as the bms one, which is fine with me.
You're largely safe with piggy back tuning solutions as long as you drive reasonably. If you drive like a jackass, stock or not, that creates unnecessary stress on the engine.
04-15-20, 10:45 PM
#4525
Pole Position
To be perfectly honest with you, how you drive and treat the car will determine if your tune or modifications damage your car.
You're largely safe with piggy back tuning solutions as long as you drive reasonably. If you drive like a jackass, stock or not, that creates unnecessary stress on the engine.
You're largely safe with piggy back tuning solutions as long as you drive reasonably. If you drive like a jackass, stock or not, that creates unnecessary stress on the engine.
04-22-20, 09:01 AM
#4527
OVTune no longer offering flash kits and tuning services.
Only offering their DIY tuning software. Luckily, if you have purchased their previous flash kits, we will still receive same tuning services as before.
I'm going to purchase the tuning software, but I don't know what I'm doing, so I hope I can find someone that does lol
Only offering their DIY tuning software. Luckily, if you have purchased their previous flash kits, we will still receive same tuning services as before.
I'm going to purchase the tuning software, but I don't know what I'm doing, so I hope I can find someone that does lol
04-25-20, 10:18 AM
#4528
Driver School Candidate
Has anyone else had trouble getting in touch with Matt over at OV? I keep having a P0505 fault code but only on the 1.02 tune (i purchased his tuning software last year) I have been trying to make contact with him via email (even before the virus) but still haven't heard anything back. I figured he was just busy but its been like two months. I love his tune and software, they were the best over-all.
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Minitech (04-25-20)
04-25-20, 04:52 PM
#4529
Pole Position
I know you probably don't want to hear this, but if you have a OV tune you're SOL. So much frustration, problems, demand and ungratefulness has been placed on Matt's shoulders than he has essentially given up on this platform. To put it in a nerdy version: the citizens of metropolis has demanded soo much from Superman, that Superman ultimately gave up on the citizens to let them rot.
04-25-20, 07:20 PM
#4530
I know you probably don't want to hear this, but if you have a OV tune you're SOL. So much frustration, problems, demand and ungratefulness has been placed on Matt's shoulders than he has essentially given up on this platform. To put it in a nerdy version: the citizens of metropolis has demanded soo much from Superman, that Superman ultimately gave up on the citizens to let them rot.
but i feel this needed to be said for all of us (the good ones) who decided to give OV a chance.