View Poll Results: What mods have you done?
No mods that would effect the idle
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66
58.41%
Torque Converter
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3
2.65%
Intake w/o ECU
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18
15.93%
Intake w/ ECU
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11
9.73%
Torque Converter and Intake w/o ECU
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1
0.88%
Torque Converter and Intake w/ ECU
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14
12.39%
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Low Idle Investigation
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at idle in "D" my TPS is reading 12.5%. Before buying a new TPS, I suggest you test the sensor first. Check the TPS and the Throttle Accelerator Pedal sensor.
also, what is you IAC reading?
a bad PCV will cause rough idle.
also, what is you IAC reading?
a bad PCV will cause rough idle.
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Just to give an update on my situation....it seems that mine has been resolved for now.
I had super low idle issues forever. I had noticed that my voltage would always be super low as well, which I attributed to the low idle not turning the alternator at the speed it should. I constantly had to keep a charger on my battery to keep it fully charged. Even with all my mods, I've never believed that the car SHOULD low idle. I'd always thought that it was an ECU glitch since cars in our gen. seem to have it regardless of mod levels.
Anyway, about a week or two ago I got the dreaded CEL. I pulled the codes and it had all kinds of new codes. They all had to do with the throttle body. I changed out the TPS, and it didn't fix the issue for long since the codes came back. I did some reading and found out that when the ECU sees any of these codes, it shuts down the valve motor on the TB and then the car only idles via that throttle cable. So in essence, you're left driving with two feet to keep the car from stalling. For those that don't know, a NEW TB is $1000+ at the dealer. Luckily I have some great friends and one of them pulled some favors and got me a used one at a great price. I put it on and VOILA!!!!!!!![Woot](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/woot.gif)
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My car idles perfectly now. No longer do I have to have the A/C on to keep from stalling. No longer is my voltage constantly at 12v at idle, since I now idle where it's supposed to.
Anyway, since the TB has 3 different electronic parts that have to work together to keep the car at idle correctly. I suspect that one malfunction doesn't trigger the meltdown, but 2 or more bring on Armaggedon.
BTW, my VSC lights (both on and off) lit up every time there was a bad TB code. Don't know the correlation of the two, but the car went funky as soon as both those lights would tilt.
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I had super low idle issues forever. I had noticed that my voltage would always be super low as well, which I attributed to the low idle not turning the alternator at the speed it should. I constantly had to keep a charger on my battery to keep it fully charged. Even with all my mods, I've never believed that the car SHOULD low idle. I'd always thought that it was an ECU glitch since cars in our gen. seem to have it regardless of mod levels.
Anyway, about a week or two ago I got the dreaded CEL. I pulled the codes and it had all kinds of new codes. They all had to do with the throttle body. I changed out the TPS, and it didn't fix the issue for long since the codes came back. I did some reading and found out that when the ECU sees any of these codes, it shuts down the valve motor on the TB and then the car only idles via that throttle cable. So in essence, you're left driving with two feet to keep the car from stalling. For those that don't know, a NEW TB is $1000+ at the dealer. Luckily I have some great friends and one of them pulled some favors and got me a used one at a great price. I put it on and VOILA!!!!!!!
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Anyway, since the TB has 3 different electronic parts that have to work together to keep the car at idle correctly. I suspect that one malfunction doesn't trigger the meltdown, but 2 or more bring on Armaggedon.
BTW, my VSC lights (both on and off) lit up every time there was a bad TB code. Don't know the correlation of the two, but the car went funky as soon as both those lights would tilt.
Well, I thought I'd share.
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i have now experienced this issue twice. Both times i popped the hood and took the multimeter to read the battery. It reads 11v while car is running. First time it happened i thought alternator died. Replaced alternator and now it happened again. It reads 11v with engine running. Shut off and restart the car. Still low idling around 100-200. After a minute, engine starts to rev up back to normal 500-700rpm.
Checked battery and was now reading 14v still with car running. It looks like it has to do with timing or something. Something is not triggering alternator to charge battery. When battery low, car idles extremely low and often stalls.
so it sounds like at least 2 parts failing in TB
Checked battery and was now reading 14v still with car running. It looks like it has to do with timing or something. Something is not triggering alternator to charge battery. When battery low, car idles extremely low and often stalls.
so it sounds like at least 2 parts failing in TB
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Hi everyone,
I bought a 2006 GS 430 a couple months ago with 110k. I took it to service station and had full preventative service done (Timing belt, all seals, tensioner, water pump, spark plugs, all fluids, new radiator). Shortly after I had the low idle issue. Took it back and they cleaned throttle body but it didn’t cure it. So I just had the throttle body replaced ($1100) and I’m still having the same issue; in Drive with A/C off and lights off I idle between 450-500. It’s a little rough but hadn’t cut off. I’ve taken it back to service station (Lexus specialist here in LA) but they can’t figure out the problem over the weekend. It’s still there now, can anyone give guidance/suggestions on what it could be?
I bought a 2006 GS 430 a couple months ago with 110k. I took it to service station and had full preventative service done (Timing belt, all seals, tensioner, water pump, spark plugs, all fluids, new radiator). Shortly after I had the low idle issue. Took it back and they cleaned throttle body but it didn’t cure it. So I just had the throttle body replaced ($1100) and I’m still having the same issue; in Drive with A/C off and lights off I idle between 450-500. It’s a little rough but hadn’t cut off. I’ve taken it back to service station (Lexus specialist here in LA) but they can’t figure out the problem over the weekend. It’s still there now, can anyone give guidance/suggestions on what it could be?
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Hi everyone,
I bought a 2006 GS 430 a couple months ago with 110k. I took it to service station and had full preventative service done (Timing belt, all seals, tensioner, water pump, spark plugs, all fluids, new radiator). Shortly after I had the low idle issue. Took it back and they cleaned throttle body but it didn’t cure it. So I just had the throttle body replaced ($1100) and I’m still having the same issue; in Drive with A/C off and lights off I idle between 450-500. It’s a little rough but hadn’t cut off. I’ve taken it back to service station (Lexus specialist here in LA) but they can’t figure out the problem over the weekend. It’s still there now, can anyone give guidance/suggestions on what it could be?
I bought a 2006 GS 430 a couple months ago with 110k. I took it to service station and had full preventative service done (Timing belt, all seals, tensioner, water pump, spark plugs, all fluids, new radiator). Shortly after I had the low idle issue. Took it back and they cleaned throttle body but it didn’t cure it. So I just had the throttle body replaced ($1100) and I’m still having the same issue; in Drive with A/C off and lights off I idle between 450-500. It’s a little rough but hadn’t cut off. I’ve taken it back to service station (Lexus specialist here in LA) but they can’t figure out the problem over the weekend. It’s still there now, can anyone give guidance/suggestions on what it could be?
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