Official Lexus RC thread
#1696
Lets not go crazy and disparage the RC-F without official Specs and Tests of the 2 cars.
Either way these are not lightweights by any means.
#1698
GTR is the greatest handling car currently on the market, that AWD setup does wonders no RWD can match period. What you are talking about is probably sensual experience while driving it or perception of driving very extreme, that good feel that makes your adrenalin coming. That's the reason why LFA got the praise cause they got that emotional engagement formula right. If they can infuse that into RC-F they have a winner no matter what track time says. We already know BMW is an emperor when it comes to "telling" its drivers they are driving a sports car when indeed they are driving a GT car.
#1700
While we are on the subject of weight, and although the M4 will surely be considered the RC F's nemesis, the RS5 is really a more direct competitor:
Audi RS5
4,039 lbs
4.2L V8
450 hp
317 kb-ft of torque
8250 rpm redline
Quattro AWD
Audi RS5
4,039 lbs
4.2L V8
450 hp
317 kb-ft of torque
8250 rpm redline
Quattro AWD
#1702
Because RC-F is heavy, that doesn't mean it will not drive great. Good suspension set up and low CoG will make a heavy car drive great. Why don't we just wait until someone pit RC-F against M4?
#1703
I personally didn't really care what power output they release it with, it'll be similar to an ISF with boltons. I was really looking forward to it being lighter than the ISF. Especially since they have that fancy LFA CF loom hanging around. Maybe even a CF steering wheel.....OK that's really dreaming lol
#1704
This kinda makes the weight of the RC F more of a let down, I'm sure quattro adds more than 50 lbs. The GS was in the right direction being the lightest in it's class.
#1705
#1706
There's only so much weight you can shave off until you start compromising on safely, technology, and comfort; all of which are equally important as acceleration and handling to Lexus and consumers alike.
#1707
Quattro is at least 150 lbs, so it would be lighter than the RC F in theory if it was RWD. the A4 is actually lighter than the A5. So the RS5 is already porky, but still better than the RC F. I think most of the complaining are from ISF owners who are on the fence and want a more compelling case to upgrade. I would be all over the RC F if I was a new owner.
#1708
All this hand-wringing over weight is exactly what happened over at Corvette Forum when the curb weight of the C7 was announced and everyone lost their minds that it didn't come in at 3000 lbs(which was an unrealistic expectation anyway). Then people actually got to drive it and the subject of weight was never brought up again because of how great it performed. I have a feeling the same thing will happen with the RC-F.
#1709
because no matter how you spin it, 4000 lbs isnt good for a sports car.