Official Lexus RC thread
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No one said the GS-F has to have 550hp, but most agree that it needs to have at least 500hp to be considered in the same realm as its competition--that's just how the segment is. The C-segment super sedans on the other hand are still in the realm of 41x to 450hp right now, so the new M3 having 42x hp is still fine for the segment.
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No one said the GS-F has to have 550hp, but most agree that it needs to have at least 500hp to be considered in the same realm as its competition--that's just how the segment is. The C-segment super sedans on the other hand are still in the realm of 41x to 450hp right now, so the new M3 having 42x hp is still fine for the segment.
So if for M3, +-50hp doesnt matter, why should it matter for GS-F?
In reality, it matters for both anyway. People care about the numbers when they pay the price.
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plenty of people here said that it has to have hp numbers and that actual performance does not matter that much.
So if for M3, +-50hp doesnt matter, why should it matter for GS-F?
In reality, it matters for both anyway. People care about the numbers when they pay the price.
So if for M3, +-50hp doesnt matter, why should it matter for GS-F?
In reality, it matters for both anyway. People care about the numbers when they pay the price.
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According to the article posted on the upcoming M4 it will have 424 hp but will weigh 700 lbs less than the current C63 AMG and 500 lbs less than the current IS-F. It also has the benefit of a much higher torque curve relative to a naturally aspirated engine producing similar power. So the M4 will have a very low power to weight ratio. The GS-F would need to weigh 3440 lbs to match the power to weight ratio of the BMW M5 given this 450 hp rumor.
Also, didnt the IS-F have a lot more torque compared to M3 ? Those torque curves vs IS-F wont look like vs old M3. It seems like IS-F had 30% more torque already.
If Lexus manages to keep the weight down, and they seem to be doing well with GS so far, and up the power of V8, it will be quite comparable to M3 and possibly M5.
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plenty of people here said that it has to have hp numbers and that actual performance does not matter that much.
So if for M3, +-50hp doesnt matter, why should it matter for GS-F?
In reality, it matters for both anyway. People care about the numbers when they pay the price.
So if for M3, +-50hp doesnt matter, why should it matter for GS-F?
In reality, it matters for both anyway. People care about the numbers when they pay the price.
Last edited by ydooby; 09-24-13 at 06:20 PM.
#622
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According to the article posted on the upcoming M4 it will have 424 hp but will weigh 700 lbs less than the current C63 AMG and 500 lbs less than the current IS-F. It also has the benefit of a much higher torque curve relative to a naturally aspirated engine producing similar power. So the M4 will have a very low power to weight ratio. The GS-F would need to weigh 3440 lbs to match the power to weight ratio of the BMW M5 given this 450 hp rumor.
It might weight that much with some insane strip down club racer package or if its base msrp will be set around 100k price range.
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Motortrend said that was dry weight, of the European model. I doubt it'll be any less than 3450lbs. Don't forget the rumors of the "carbon fiber" package on the RC. Will be interesting to see the weight of that.
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One wonders how a high boost highly stressed tri-turbo engine (3L to generate 425+hp) would hold up under repeated laps of a track without overheating. The Lexus RC-F normal aspirated V8 almost certainly will be bulletproof under those conditions considering that the Lexus LFA V10 can run repeated laps with its oil temp not budging an inch.
Fuel pump does not equal cooling issues. They've done just fine cooling their twin turbo motors in the past, this one should be no different.
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on the M4 the CF roof is said to save 13 lbs and CF trunk saves 11 lbs. on the E92 the CF roof was said to save 11 lbs vs a steel roof. CF is mainly for bling and bragging rights. an aluminum roof/hood/trunk is all you really need. lets hope lexus keeps the price reasonable by staying away from CF and goes with aluminum...
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on the M4 the CF roof is said to save 13 lbs and CF trunk saves 11 lbs. on the E92 the CF roof was said to save 11 lbs vs a steel roof. CF is mainly for bling and bragging rights. an aluminum roof/hood/trunk is all you really need. lets hope lexus keeps the price reasonable by staying away from CF and goes with aluminum...
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