RC F automotive reviews thread
10-31-14 | 06:16 PM
#421
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M4 sounds muted in real life - the car is very quiet inside.
Driving them back to back - there is a HUGE difference. The RCF feels more special primarily bec of the engine.
Its obviously no LFA v10 but its an Awesome sounding V8.
Besides Ferrari 458 and Jag Ftype V8 which I drove earlier this year, its one of the sweetest sounding engines i have experienced,
In the M4, the car just goes FAST but u dont really notice it, there is no DRAMA to it.
Driving them back to back - there is a HUGE difference. The RCF feels more special primarily bec of the engine.
Its obviously no LFA v10 but its an Awesome sounding V8.
Besides Ferrari 458 and Jag Ftype V8 which I drove earlier this year, its one of the sweetest sounding engines i have experienced,
In the M4, the car just goes FAST but u dont really notice it, there is no DRAMA to it.
11-01-14 | 03:38 AM
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I don't doubt that in time they will come to meet the expectations of auto enthusiasts who have historically favored V8s. But...for now, the RCF may indeed have the best engine in its class.
11-01-14 | 05:32 AM
#425
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M4 sounds muted in real life - the car is very quiet inside.
Driving them back to back - there is a HUGE difference. The RCF feels more special primarily bec of the engine.
Its obviously no LFA v10 but its an Awesome sounding V8.
Besides Ferrari 458 and Jag Ftype V8 which I drove earlier this year, its one of the sweetest sounding engines i have experienced,
In the M4, the car just goes FAST but u dont really notice it, there is no DRAMA to it.
Driving them back to back - there is a HUGE difference. The RCF feels more special primarily bec of the engine.
Its obviously no LFA v10 but its an Awesome sounding V8.
Besides Ferrari 458 and Jag Ftype V8 which I drove earlier this year, its one of the sweetest sounding engines i have experienced,
In the M4, the car just goes FAST but u dont really notice it, there is no DRAMA to it.
11-01-14 | 05:34 AM
#426
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11-01-14 | 07:36 AM
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this comparo also shows the differences between NA and turbocharged engines. NA is linear, very predictable, therefore smooth on the track - hence less fuss on the steering inputs. Then you have a highly turbocharged engine that has less predictable, non linear power. When the boost comes on, the power dramatically rises and you can easily lose grip - hence the fussy steering inputs the driver had to apply. Car like this requires much more skill and more effort to track. You'll get beat up on a track day.
Its funny how earlier in the video one of the reviewers says the M4 oversteer is easy to control, its so balanced and controllable. Then in the hot lap, the veteran driver is thrashing the wheel like hes cutting down a tree.
Its funny how earlier in the video one of the reviewers says the M4 oversteer is easy to control, its so balanced and controllable. Then in the hot lap, the veteran driver is thrashing the wheel like hes cutting down a tree.
...The oversteer in the M4 is actually a problem IMO...
11-01-14 | 06:54 PM
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Says who? The RCF does not have this characteristic.
11-02-14 | 07:49 AM
#430
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This nails it for me (from Autospies.com referring to MT RC F head to head with M4):
I've been a bit skeptical of this since I found the first-gen IS F to be a very capable street machine. Frankly, we're not racing these things, we're driving to our offices. That's why I am not always a fan of these quantified tests — they don't tell the truth about really owning one and it becomes about tenths of a second. Pretty stupid, honestly.
11-02-14 | 01:03 PM
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Doesn't the RC F also participate in some COTY? It could have a chance.
Last edited by Levi68; 11-02-14 at 01:17 PM.
11-02-14 | 02:47 PM
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It is, this comparo was announced over 2 months ago, but for some reason nothing happens here. Similar cars to the EVO test you are linking to.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...review#slide-1
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...review#slide-1
Last edited by Mr Bond; 11-02-14 at 02:54 PM.
11-02-14 | 05:40 PM
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"spikey on-limit" handling of M4 was easily seen on MT video comparo vs RC-F... watching Randy Pobst drive them both side by side, difference in result was really small but RC-F required drastically less corrections on track.
Most of us are not Randy Pobst, especially me.
Most of us are not Randy Pobst, especially me.
11-03-14 | 12:29 AM
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"spikey on-limit" handling of M4 was easily seen on MT video comparo vs RC-F... watching Randy Pobst drive them both side by side, difference in result was really small but RC-F required drastically less corrections on track.
Most of us are not Randy Pobst, especially me.
Most of us are not Randy Pobst, especially me.
Maybe some people think they're the second coming of Michael Schumacher, or that the 0.3 sec straight line advantage is what they're gunning for.