RC F vs GS F, which would you choose?
#106
I got the RCF, the ISF and GSF are never a car I wanted just because the way they look and they are nothing special to ME.
Now if I was looking at a 4 door the GSF would be on the bottom as I think in that market you have a lot better cars for 100k and below but again this is all opinion just like some people would by any car because of the badge, this is my 1st Lexus.
Now if I was looking at a 4 door the GSF would be on the bottom as I think in that market you have a lot better cars for 100k and below but again this is all opinion just like some people would by any car because of the badge, this is my 1st Lexus.
#107
Lol, nothing to with my original point. Fan boys are great thoug and you apparently bought an IS F. Why???????????????
The RC F-Sport would not even bing to attract performance number enthusiasts. A coupe with those numbers is abysmal. The point of my original post is that a GS F with only 460 hp ain't gonna to cut it and will in fact lag behind and Lexus dropped the ball big time on a good opportunity.
If you don't thinks, cool. We shall see. I have to say the new RX is butt ugly also. I really think the Lexus marketing department needs their heads examined. Lets just watch the sales figures to see if I am wrong..
The RC F-Sport would not even bing to attract performance number enthusiasts. A coupe with those numbers is abysmal. The point of my original post is that a GS F with only 460 hp ain't gonna to cut it and will in fact lag behind and Lexus dropped the ball big time on a good opportunity.
If you don't thinks, cool. We shall see. I have to say the new RX is butt ugly also. I really think the Lexus marketing department needs their heads examined. Lets just watch the sales figures to see if I am wrong..
Isf suits my family needs and no else makes a Japanese muscle car the Bavarian Manure Wagon wouldn't satisfy me because I'd be spending most my time in the service dept like my buddy did, ohh and I forgot it's rare .
#108
Lexus needs power and weight loss... That's the main reason why I haven't bought a new Lexus yet. The RC-F was so close, yet so far.
#109
thats actually not true. the GS is one of the lighter...better chassis...in its class. dont confuse it with the RC platform. lexus has hit homeruns from a driving perspective with the IS and GS platforms. its the coupes that theyve had trouble with, lately...
#110
you STILL tryin' to Convince yourself! That's Cool!
#111
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#113
i am wondering why did he not stick with the GS platform and just shorten it rather than putting together the frankenstein chassis for the RC-F?
#114
From what I've heard so far, the GS-F is slightly heavier than the RC-F
We'll see once the GS-F hits the Lexus Japan site but I won't hold my breath that much.
Anyways, between the two:
Definitely RC-F
With the RC-F, I have a chance to keep up with an equivalent M3/M4.
With the GS-F, the power gap is not enough to keep up with an M5 fitted with the Competition Package. Heck, at best, it might just barely keep up with a Jaguar XF-R.
And as such, spec-wise, the GS-F would have compete on the next lower field. A field that is composed of:
-Audi S6
-BMW 550i M-Sport
-MB E500/550 AMG-Sport
-Jaguar XF Supercharged 470
Hence for me:
I would prioritize the RC-F over the GS-F atm
We'll see once the GS-F hits the Lexus Japan site but I won't hold my breath that much.
Anyways, between the two:
Definitely RC-F
With the RC-F, I have a chance to keep up with an equivalent M3/M4.
With the GS-F, the power gap is not enough to keep up with an M5 fitted with the Competition Package. Heck, at best, it might just barely keep up with a Jaguar XF-R.
And as such, spec-wise, the GS-F would have compete on the next lower field. A field that is composed of:
-Audi S6
-BMW 550i M-Sport
-MB E500/550 AMG-Sport
-Jaguar XF Supercharged 470
Hence for me:
I would prioritize the RC-F over the GS-F atm
#115
From what I've heard so far, the GS-F is slightly heavier than the RC-F
We'll see once the GS-F hits the Lexus Japan site but I won't hold my breath that much.
Anyways, between the two:
Definitely RC-F
With the RC-F, I have a chance to keep up with an equivalent M3/M4.
With the GS-F, the power gap is not enough to keep up with an M5 fitted with the Competition Package. Heck, at best, it might just barely keep up with a Jaguar XF-R.
And as such, spec-wise, the GS-F would have compete on the next lower field. A field that is composed of:
-Audi S6
-BMW 550i M-Sport
-MB E500/550 AMG-Sport
-Jaguar XF Supercharged 470
Hence for me:
I would prioritize the RC-F over the GS-F atm
We'll see once the GS-F hits the Lexus Japan site but I won't hold my breath that much.
Anyways, between the two:
Definitely RC-F
With the RC-F, I have a chance to keep up with an equivalent M3/M4.
With the GS-F, the power gap is not enough to keep up with an M5 fitted with the Competition Package. Heck, at best, it might just barely keep up with a Jaguar XF-R.
And as such, spec-wise, the GS-F would have compete on the next lower field. A field that is composed of:
-Audi S6
-BMW 550i M-Sport
-MB E500/550 AMG-Sport
-Jaguar XF Supercharged 470
Hence for me:
I would prioritize the RC-F over the GS-F atm
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
#116
Spec wise AND price wise. The RCF starts in the $70s. The M5 starts in the $90s.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
#117
Spec wise AND price wise. The RCF starts in the $70s. The M5 starts in the $90s.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
#118
Spec wise AND price wise. The RCF starts in the $70s. The M5 starts in the $90s.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
Originally Posted by DrRick
who says that the RCF and M5 are competitors
Originally Posted by natnut
Well said. Comparing a GS-F to a limited production run Competition Package M5 shows just how lacklustre an M5 is at being a driver's car when you need to slap on >10K worth of factory mods just for the M5 to have a hope of beating a vanilla GS-F on the track.
The M5 CP is the CURRENT BENCHMARK STANDARD in its class. The only thing that comes close to it so far is the Audi RS6/RS7.
Anyways:
RCF>GSF for me
#119
Further why would the RCF be an M5 competitor? It's obviously an M4 "competitor".
#120
Spec wise AND price wise. The RCF starts in the $70s. The M5 starts in the $90s.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
Did they even ever crack the ECU to turbo the ISF/RCF?? I know when I had one it was not possible.