RC F vs GS F, which would you choose?
07-06-15 | 03:25 PM
#121
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Originally Posted by dmk08
Until you decat the M5 and add a JB4 for $800 to pick up over 100whp.
For those into aftermarket/modding of their M5/M6, there are many things you can do:
-JB4 tune
-Resonator Delete
-Eisenmann exhaust
-RPI Exhaust
-Switzer Tune
You name it
07-06-15 | 06:48 PM
#122
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BMW is hoping that by throwing more hp at the vehicle, people will be fooled into believing that piggy barge is an actual driver's car rather than the shrunken 7 series it actually is.
Anyway, we are going OT. PM me if you need further education.
07-07-15 | 10:19 AM
#123
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Spec wise AND price wise. The RCF starts in the $70s. The M5 starts in the $90s.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
While I know the interwebs wants to say the RCF was M5 competition, it's just not. It was never meant to be. Maybe in theory because it is a bad a** F car.
Drop $25K on a turbo setup for the RCF and I'll bet that M5 won't look so impressive.
Not to mention, I still can't figure out why the internet has a web boner for BMWs. They do have nice fit and finish, but they're maintenance prone.....aka pieces of mechanical horse *****. Anything you spend as much time fixing as you do driving is not impressive to me.
jesus christ I had to jump in on the quote above...Of all the cars I've owned in the past 5 years, none had major issues besides the Audi S4 that had DSG tranny hiccup that Audi knew about and would fix under warranty. It's really ignorant to say that BMW's spend more time getting fixed than on the road. Modern cars don't have too many issues. The only issues I'm aware of is the "transmission malfunction" from DCT units on a few M3/M4, but that's not my issue since I prefer 6MT cars. Have you even owned a BMW to say that they're maintenance prone? Or are you regurgitating what every other uninformed person says about german cars?
e92 M3 - no issues through 40k miles. And maintenance is free 4yr/50k miles.
e86 Z4 coupe - no issues for 15k miles I had (50k to 65k). Service history had no prior issues either.
B8 S4 - no issues besides tranny hiccup up to 50k miles.
e86 Z4Mcoupe - prior owners did not have issues and I have no issues so far up to 79k miles.
GS350 F sport - no issues so far 10k miles.
F80 M3 - free maintenance and no issues so far up to 1,300 miles.
07-07-15 | 10:32 AM
#124
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jesus christ I had to jump in on the quote above...Of all the cars I've owned in the past 5 years, none had major issues besides the Audi S4 that had DSG tranny hiccup that Audi knew about and would fix under warranty. It's really ignorant to say that BMW's spend more time getting fixed than on the road. Modern cars don't have too many issues. The only issues I'm aware of is the "transmission malfunction" from DCT units on a few M3/M4, but that's not my issue since I prefer 6MT cars. Have you even owned a BMW to say that they're maintenance prone? Or are you regurgitating what every other uninformed person says about german cars?
e92 M3 - no issues through 40k miles. And maintenance is free 4yr/50k miles.
e86 Z4 coupe - no issues for 15k miles I had (50k to 65k). Service history had no prior issues either.
B8 S4 - no issues besides tranny hiccup up to 50k miles.
e86 Z4Mcoupe - prior owners did not have issues and I have no issues so far up to 79k miles.
GS350 F sport - no issues so far 10k miles.
F80 M3 - free maintenance and no issues so far up to 1,300 miles.
Their Mercedes has constant maintenance issues. It's never less than $1000/visit. I'd say they've spent AT LEAST $10-15K in maintenance since buying it new. Has 45k miles on it.
Don't pretend it's like owning a Ferrari. They're faux status vehicles......
I love Porsche though
07-07-15 | 10:47 AM
#126
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10-02-15 | 11:02 AM
#130
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where is data that RC is stiffer than GS?
10-14-15 | 12:48 AM
#131
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RCF fo sho!!!
Same V8 engine, same 467 horsepower, same TVD that is optional on the RCF, but it comes standard on the GSF. The GSF costs more, base price is $85,380 includes everything but two options: a Mark Levinson stereo system and orange-painted calipers. But the RCF is quicker, in part due to a 100-pound weight advantage.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/13/2...-review-video/
Same V8 engine, same 467 horsepower, same TVD that is optional on the RCF, but it comes standard on the GSF. The GSF costs more, base price is $85,380 includes everything but two options: a Mark Levinson stereo system and orange-painted calipers. But the RCF is quicker, in part due to a 100-pound weight advantage.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/13/2...-review-video/
10-14-15 | 10:15 AM
#132
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The RC-F is better looking than the GS-F from every angle IMO, inside and out. I don't like the elongated headlights that much, nor the DRLs joining them. The rears are similar, but still better on the RC-F, especially with the carbon wing. And the RC-F has sportier suspension, whether it's a good thing for you or not. The only mechanical changes are a more balanced crankshaft pulley (?), and standard TVD. However, the GS-F is better equipped (lane departure, larger nav screen, etc)... but it should, since it's significantly more expensive.
My last comment is Lexus is supposedly limiting production to 2K units for the US. Is that right? And if so, there wasn't any limitation for RC-Fs, right? Seems to me Lexus made many more than demand, prompting discounts on them. I also like the idea of having minimal options on the GS-F. The RC-F basically looks identical to a pedestrian RC F-sport, plus a base one is $17K less than what I paid for my fully-optioned example (the GS-F difference should be about 2 grand, with only ML and ugly orange calipers
). That never bodes well for resale or exclusivity. None of us full-spec buyers are too interested on either one or wouldn't have bought the car, but it wouldn't hurt if that was the case.
My last comment is Lexus is supposedly limiting production to 2K units for the US. Is that right? And if so, there wasn't any limitation for RC-Fs, right? Seems to me Lexus made many more than demand, prompting discounts on them. I also like the idea of having minimal options on the GS-F. The RC-F basically looks identical to a pedestrian RC F-sport, plus a base one is $17K less than what I paid for my fully-optioned example (the GS-F difference should be about 2 grand, with only ML and ugly orange calipers
). That never bodes well for resale or exclusivity. None of us full-spec buyers are too interested on either one or wouldn't have bought the car, but it wouldn't hurt if that was the case.
Last edited by JCtx; 10-14-15 at 10:20 AM.
10-18-15 | 12:42 AM
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