Brake squeal and dust problem RESOLVED **OEM** pads
12-18-15, 03:29 PM
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Thanks for the info man. I'm keeping the original pads, but wanted to point out this might only be free of charge during the 'adjustment period', which typically runs 1-yr or 12K miles, whichever occurs first. Hopefully somebody can post Lexus official stand on this issue as far as free replacement.
12-30-15, 09:34 AM
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It has been 3 weeks since I had my pads replaced and the new ones they put on are just as bad as the old ones. They're actually so bad that I am starting to even question if they were actually replaced. Plan on taking it to Lexus again to have it looked at
02-19-16, 02:17 PM
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Went to my dealer and initially they refused to change my pads. I showed them the LSB and finally they agreed.
Disclaimer is the "alternative" pads are not as good as brembos, they are Toyota. They told me that brembos are known to this issue so how come Lexus went this route? I asked how less this brake pads performance wise and they could not tell me. They finally order the parts but will not guarantee that it won't squeal anymore.
I don't track my car so if it squeaks again I'm def buying carbotech.
Disclaimer is the "alternative" pads are not as good as brembos, they are Toyota. They told me that brembos are known to this issue so how come Lexus went this route? I asked how less this brake pads performance wise and they could not tell me. They finally order the parts but will not guarantee that it won't squeal anymore.
I don't track my car so if it squeaks again I'm def buying carbotech.
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02-19-16, 03:18 PM
#51
^^^^The pads are not made by Brembo, the calipers are. On the ISF the stock pads were made by Textar as I recall. Don't know about the RCF.
I'm running Ferodo DS2500 on the front and Project Mu HC+800 pads on my ISF. The combo is awesome. And so is SpeedFreaks, a forum sponsor.
Lou
I'm running Ferodo DS2500 on the front and Project Mu HC+800 pads on my ISF. The combo is awesome. And so is SpeedFreaks, a forum sponsor.
Lou
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02-19-16, 03:22 PM
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Went to my dealer and initially they refused to change my pads. I showed them the LSB and finally they agreed.
Disclaimer is the "alternative" pads are not as good as brembos, they are Toyota. They told me that brembos are known to this issue so how come Lexus went this route? I asked how less this brake pads performance wise and they could not tell me. They finally order the parts but will not guarantee that it won't squeal anymore.
I don't track my car so if it squeaks again I'm def buying carbotech.
Disclaimer is the "alternative" pads are not as good as brembos, they are Toyota. They told me that brembos are known to this issue so how come Lexus went this route? I asked how less this brake pads performance wise and they could not tell me. They finally order the parts but will not guarantee that it won't squeal anymore.
I don't track my car so if it squeaks again I'm def buying carbotech.
you won't notice it with normal street driving.
on a track you will find that hard braking after the rotors are hot will result in brake fad and reduced bite.
unless you are driving very hard and heating up the brakes to the top of their design specs, chances are you will not notice an issue.
My dealer offered to change mine, I've dealt with this issue on the last 4 cars I have owned that have had Brembo brakes, it is not specific to Lexus but to Brembo. As such I opted to hold off replacing mine, my pads are at 9mm, dealer said they can only replace them if they are 5mm or more, so I will wait and have it done about 10k-12k miles when the pads are near 5mm.
Brembo pads only last 14k-15k miles anyway, so might as well take advantage of a free brake job via the LSB..
02-19-16, 08:52 PM
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you won't notice it with normal street driving.
on a track you will find that hard braking after the rotors are hot will result in brake fad and reduced bite.
unless you are driving very hard and heating up the brakes to the top of their design specs, chances are you will not notice an issue.
My dealer offered to change mine, I've dealt with this issue on the last 4 cars I have owned that have had Brembo brakes, it is not specific to Lexus but to Brembo. As such I opted to hold off replacing mine, my pads are at 9mm, dealer said they can only replace them if they are 5mm or more, so I will wait and have it done about 10k-12k miles when the pads are near 5mm.
Brembo pads only last 14k-15k miles anyway, so might as well take advantage of a free brake job via the LSB..
on a track you will find that hard braking after the rotors are hot will result in brake fad and reduced bite.
unless you are driving very hard and heating up the brakes to the top of their design specs, chances are you will not notice an issue.
My dealer offered to change mine, I've dealt with this issue on the last 4 cars I have owned that have had Brembo brakes, it is not specific to Lexus but to Brembo. As such I opted to hold off replacing mine, my pads are at 9mm, dealer said they can only replace them if they are 5mm or more, so I will wait and have it done about 10k-12k miles when the pads are near 5mm.
Brembo pads only last 14k-15k miles anyway, so might as well take advantage of a free brake job via the LSB..
02-20-16, 06:20 AM
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[QUOTE=DougHII;9374184 carbotechs what is price.[/QUOTE]
I asked carbotech directly a few months ago for a quote but have not
order yet.
They said:
There is a core charge on the front, but not the rear set of the new RC-F. They are not backing plates that we can purchase yet, we have to get new or used sets sent in to us in order to make the pads for you. The front, CT1440-1521 are $261 for the set. However, there will be either a $25 core cleaning charge added to that if you send us an old set of pads in or there will be an additional $80 charge if you do not. So the front pads are actually either $286 or $341. The rear pads, the CT1807-1521 are $229. No additional charges are needed for those pad shapes. They are both currently in stock. Additionally, UPS ground will cost between $20-$25.
Your total with UPS ground service would be either $555 or $590.
These are the same pads that Speed Freaks sells, we supply them to Speed Freaks, they are one of our dealers.
Mike Puskar, Jr. <jr@ctbrakes.com>
I asked carbotech directly a few months ago for a quote but have not
order yet.
They said:
There is a core charge on the front, but not the rear set of the new RC-F. They are not backing plates that we can purchase yet, we have to get new or used sets sent in to us in order to make the pads for you. The front, CT1440-1521 are $261 for the set. However, there will be either a $25 core cleaning charge added to that if you send us an old set of pads in or there will be an additional $80 charge if you do not. So the front pads are actually either $286 or $341. The rear pads, the CT1807-1521 are $229. No additional charges are needed for those pad shapes. They are both currently in stock. Additionally, UPS ground will cost between $20-$25.
Your total with UPS ground service would be either $555 or $590.
These are the same pads that Speed Freaks sells, we supply them to Speed Freaks, they are one of our dealers.
Mike Puskar, Jr. <jr@ctbrakes.com>
02-23-16, 03:20 PM
#55
-Matt M.
02-23-16, 03:21 PM
#56
I am glad Lexus provided a free OE replacement option for customers who were unhappy with the dust and noise levels of the original pads. However, some people are more sensitive to braking performance and prefer not to decrease the initial bite and overall friction levels and I am glad we have options for them. For those who would rather take the OE replacements now, eventually there will be a need to replace those pads and if they are $1,100 from a dealership then the Carbotechs will be the clear choice going forward for many (for now at least).
For those who really drive their cars aggressively up in the mountains, auto x, or want to do some DE events and need even more from their brakes we have some Endless compounds available but the MX72 will likely be the most relevant to the RC F community since it maintains it's street friendliness.
-Matt M.
For those who really drive their cars aggressively up in the mountains, auto x, or want to do some DE events and need even more from their brakes we have some Endless compounds available but the MX72 will likely be the most relevant to the RC F community since it maintains it's street friendliness.
-Matt M.
05-17-16, 06:16 PM
#58
09-16-17, 06:16 AM
#59
Brakes were down to 6mm so took it in for the TSB pad replacement. Told them they squeak and there were no questions asked.
Initial impressions are initial bite is slightly less but am looking forward to a lower dust condition. $1287.00 value
UPDATE: Put on around 300 miles and the wheels are just as clean. Brake feel has also improved as they are starting to seat. Recommended if you do not track and you hate cleaning wheels.
Initial impressions are initial bite is slightly less but am looking forward to a lower dust condition. $1287.00 value
UPDATE: Put on around 300 miles and the wheels are just as clean. Brake feel has also improved as they are starting to seat. Recommended if you do not track and you hate cleaning wheels.
Last edited by lexusnutt; 09-17-17 at 06:35 AM.
09-16-17, 10:38 AM
#60
What was your milage at when you get it done?