Depreciation on RCF
05-14-16, 08:15 AM
#16
The pursuit of F
Interestingly, what I'm starting to see in Canada is used '15 RC F prices have not dropped the last 6 months, stabilized at about 70-75K (Cdn) roughly 15-20K under new MSRP. I attribute this to the high rates and zero incentives on 2016s helping to increase resale value on the '15s.
05-15-16, 11:30 AM
#17
One owner, clean carfax, 2400 miles, $52,000......or as you put it "beat to hell."
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invento...ting=143239090
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invento...ting=143239090
05-20-16, 06:43 PM
#18
One owner, clean carfax, 2400 miles, $52,000......or as you put it "beat to hell."
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invento...ting=143239090
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invento...ting=143239090
05-21-16, 12:40 AM
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Better competition HP wise is the CTS Vsport hovering around the mid $60s. Both RCF and GSF were great additions, but poorly powered and priced.
If these cars were V8TT, they'd command the prices they're asking.....but 467hp? No way.
I'll be hunting in the $45k range or less next year, mark my words.
05-21-16, 07:58 AM
#20
I agree, the car is miserably overpriced. $80 gets you a CTV or Z06.
Better competition HP wise is the CTS Vsport hovering around the mid $60s. Both RCF and GSF were great additions, but poorly powered and priced.
If these cars were V8TT, they'd command the prices they're asking.....but 467hp? No way.
I'll be hunting in the $45k range or less next year, mark my words.
Better competition HP wise is the CTS Vsport hovering around the mid $60s. Both RCF and GSF were great additions, but poorly powered and priced.
If these cars were V8TT, they'd command the prices they're asking.....but 467hp? No way.
I'll be hunting in the $45k range or less next year, mark my words.
I'll take a few less HP, but have a car I can actually enjoy.
05-21-16, 08:29 AM
#21
Lexus Test Driver
I agree, the car is miserably overpriced. $80 gets you a CTV or Z06.
Better competition HP wise is the CTS Vsport hovering around the mid $60s. Both RCF and GSF were great additions, but poorly powered and priced.
If these cars were V8TT, they'd command the prices they're asking.....but 467hp? No way.
I'll be hunting in the $45k range or less next year, mark my words.
Better competition HP wise is the CTS Vsport hovering around the mid $60s. Both RCF and GSF were great additions, but poorly powered and priced.
If these cars were V8TT, they'd command the prices they're asking.....but 467hp? No way.
I'll be hunting in the $45k range or less next year, mark my words.
Actually, in my opinion the RCF is a steal price wise based on my experience having owned several Italians, Lotus and just about every high-end itineration of 911s, a CGT and an M3.
Why is it so undervalued and under priced for what you get? Because it is a Lexus, many in this market are brand loyal and many in this market still don't know much about it. In fact, many in this price range are just fickle and won't buy Japense. I was that was for 20+ years until I saw the RCF.
It ain't about just hp unless you are fan boy high schooler whacking off to objective stats in your Car & Driver magazine.
You do realize how much hp a 911 or a 911 S has and how much they cost? Look what people are paying for 430s and the hp they have.
There is so much more than hp. The RCF looks great! It is very comfortable, very easy to drive and super reliable so far (26,000 miles with not even a hiccup). My wife drives mine a lot and loves it because she says its so comfortable and easy to drive.
I would not drive a Caddy or a Z06 if you gave it to me for free, okay perhaps I would potentially drive the Z06.
05-21-16, 02:02 PM
#22
Lead Lap
Miserably over priced? Huh? Are you kidding? Have you ever owned a cars like these or much higher priced sports cars?
Actually, in my opinion the RCF is a steal price wise based on my experience having owned several Italians, Lotus and just about every high-end itineration of 911s, a CGT and an M3.
Why is it so undervalued and under priced for what you get? Because it is a Lexus, many in this market are brand loyal and many in this market still don't know much about it. In fact, many in this price range are just fickle and won't buy Japense. I was that was for 20+ years until I saw the RCF.
It ain't about just hp unless you are fan boy high schooler whacking off to objective stats in your Car & Driver magazine.
You do realize how much hp a 911 or a 911 S has and how much they cost? Look what people are paying for 430s and the hp they have.
There is so much more than hp. The RCF looks great! It is very comfortable, very easy to drive and super reliable so far (26,000 miles with not even a hiccup). My wife drives mine a lot and loves it because she says its so comfortable and easy to drive.
I would not drive a Caddy or a Z06 if you gave it to me for free, okay perhaps I would potentially drive the Z06.
Actually, in my opinion the RCF is a steal price wise based on my experience having owned several Italians, Lotus and just about every high-end itineration of 911s, a CGT and an M3.
Why is it so undervalued and under priced for what you get? Because it is a Lexus, many in this market are brand loyal and many in this market still don't know much about it. In fact, many in this price range are just fickle and won't buy Japense. I was that was for 20+ years until I saw the RCF.
It ain't about just hp unless you are fan boy high schooler whacking off to objective stats in your Car & Driver magazine.
You do realize how much hp a 911 or a 911 S has and how much they cost? Look what people are paying for 430s and the hp they have.
There is so much more than hp. The RCF looks great! It is very comfortable, very easy to drive and super reliable so far (26,000 miles with not even a hiccup). My wife drives mine a lot and loves it because she says its so comfortable and easy to drive.
I would not drive a Caddy or a Z06 if you gave it to me for free, okay perhaps I would potentially drive the Z06.
05-21-16, 03:49 PM
#23
Pole Position
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A friend of mine who traded in his less than one year old red Corvette for a USB RCF last year about the same time I got my Ultra white RC-F. He is enjoying his RC-F a lot more than his previous Corvette.
I just want a good looking sporty car that is reliable and I can arrive and depart in style. At the same time I want to be unique and somewhat exclusive and not just another me too M3/M4.
[QUOTE1=DougHII;9492655]Miserably over priced? Huh? Are you kidding? Have you ever owned a cars like these or much higher priced sports cars?
Actually, in my opinion the RCF is a steal price wise based on my experience having owned several Italians, Lotus and just about every high-end itineration of 911s, a CGT and an M3.
Why is it so undervalued and under priced for what you get? Because it is a Lexus, many in this market are brand loyal and many in this market still don't know much about it. In fact, many in this price range are just fickle and won't buy Japense. I was that was for 20+ years until I saw the RCF.
It ain't about just hp unless you are fan boy high schooler whacking off to objective stats in your Car & Driver magazine.
You do realize how much hp a 911 or a 911 S has and how much they cost? Look what people are paying for 430s and the hp they have.
There is so much more than hp. The RCF looks great! It is very comfortable, very easy to drive and super reliable so far (26,000 miles with not even a hiccup). My wife drives mine a lot and loves it because she says its so comfortable and easy to drive.
I would not drive a Caddy or a Z06 if you gave it to me for free, okay perhaps I would potentially drive the Z06.[/QUOTE]
A friend of mine who traded in his less than one year old red Corvette for a USB RCF last year about the same time I got my Ultra white RC-F. He is enjoying his RC-F a lot more than his previous Corvette.
I just want a good looking sporty car that is reliable and I can arrive and depart in style. At the same time I want to be unique and somewhat exclusive and not just another me too M3/M4.
[QUOTE1=DougHII;9492655]Miserably over priced? Huh? Are you kidding? Have you ever owned a cars like these or much higher priced sports cars?
Actually, in my opinion the RCF is a steal price wise based on my experience having owned several Italians, Lotus and just about every high-end itineration of 911s, a CGT and an M3.
Why is it so undervalued and under priced for what you get? Because it is a Lexus, many in this market are brand loyal and many in this market still don't know much about it. In fact, many in this price range are just fickle and won't buy Japense. I was that was for 20+ years until I saw the RCF.
It ain't about just hp unless you are fan boy high schooler whacking off to objective stats in your Car & Driver magazine.
You do realize how much hp a 911 or a 911 S has and how much they cost? Look what people are paying for 430s and the hp they have.
There is so much more than hp. The RCF looks great! It is very comfortable, very easy to drive and super reliable so far (26,000 miles with not even a hiccup). My wife drives mine a lot and loves it because she says its so comfortable and easy to drive.
I would not drive a Caddy or a Z06 if you gave it to me for free, okay perhaps I would potentially drive the Z06.[/QUOTE]
05-21-16, 06:42 PM
#24
I agree, the car is miserably overpriced. $80 gets you a CTV or Z06.
Better competition HP wise is the CTS Vsport hovering around the mid $60s. Both RCF and GSF were great additions, but poorly powered and priced.
If these cars were V8TT, they'd command the prices they're asking.....but 467hp? No way.
I'll be hunting in the $45k range or less next year, mark my words.
Better competition HP wise is the CTS Vsport hovering around the mid $60s. Both RCF and GSF were great additions, but poorly powered and priced.
If these cars were V8TT, they'd command the prices they're asking.....but 467hp? No way.
I'll be hunting in the $45k range or less next year, mark my words.
A CTS-V starts at $82k, fully loaded I'm sure it's close to $100k. The ATS-V is more comparable.
The only gripe about the RCF is that with paying the premium for the performance/carbon package, it should've came with more alcantara in the interior...especially the headliner.
05-21-16, 07:08 PM
#25
Who the hell cares about depreciation and future values. ITS A CAR!
iT'S NOT A HOUSE. IT'S NOT GOLD OR SILVER. ITS NOT ORANGES NOR COFFEE BEANS. ITS A CAR. Cars are meant to travel. We enthusiasts also take pleasure getting one point to another. You buy a vintage auto if you want a car for an investment. For an RC F to be an investment, you'd have to never drive, then keep it for 30-40 years. I'd rather buy gold.
05-21-16, 11:47 PM
#26
Lexus Test Driver
So basically what you are saying is that the RCF is terrible at its job and should be advertised as a relaxing, reliable, easy to handle, comfortable riding Lexus-ized GT and not some bruising, insane, unreliable, entry level sports coupe that it fickle intended audience buys and see in the M4s, C amg, ATSV etc etc?
05-22-16, 09:06 AM
#27
Lead Lap
Nah, that is what I like about 911 turbos. Great daily drivers, comfortable, easy to drive in stop and go traffic, good realizability, yet fun to drive on the back road twisters or messing around with crotch rockets. Well balanced, behaved, user friendly and good looks is not a negative. Having a useable back seat for small kids sealed the deal. Lol, people throw the GT kabel around like it a negative thing. The RCF for $70k is a heck of a lot of car.
05-22-16, 09:08 AM
#28
Lead Lap
Thank goodness someone else said it first.
Who the hell cares about depreciation and future values. ITS A CAR!
iT'S NOT A HOUSE. IT'S NOT GOLD OR SILVER. ITS NOT ORANGES NOR COFFEE BEANS. ITS A CAR. Cars are meant to travel. We enthusiasts also take pleasure getting one point to another. You buy a vintage auto if you want a car for an investment. For an RC F to be an investment, you'd have to never drive, then keep it for 30-40 years. I'd rather buy gold.
Who the hell cares about depreciation and future values. ITS A CAR!
iT'S NOT A HOUSE. IT'S NOT GOLD OR SILVER. ITS NOT ORANGES NOR COFFEE BEANS. ITS A CAR. Cars are meant to travel. We enthusiasts also take pleasure getting one point to another. You buy a vintage auto if you want a car for an investment. For an RC F to be an investment, you'd have to never drive, then keep it for 30-40 years. I'd rather buy gold.
Low sales prices, low demand equals inability of the RCF to hold onto its value like the traditional Lexus moniker names. Its hard to grasp, but if you want an M4 like vehicle and Lexus like resale, buy a Porsche or higher.
Last edited by coolsaber; 05-22-16 at 09:36 AM.
05-22-16, 09:19 AM
#30
Lexus Champion
