Plan on purchasing but im just not sure
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I trust my 200K+ mile Lexus way more than my 40K mile Mercedes. I've had 2 problems with the Mercedes at 40K miles vs 0 problems with either of my GS350's both 3rd and 4th gen at around 150K miles each. Well 1 problem with my 4th gen but that was because a fuse fell out and I couldn't figure it out lol. Drove an RCF, ISF and LC pretty hard around their little autocross course and I felt like the RCF performed probably the best. The LC felt very heavy and the ISF I honestly don't remember. But if you're looking for a more fun drive I'd get the RCF.
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For the long run, ANY LEXUS will be more reliable than ANY of the Euro brands. Costs less to run and maintain too.
I had kept my old MB SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE when I bought my RCF. But after about three years of overlap ownership, the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE had just sat there and not getting driven that much. I decided to sell the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE BEFORE anything wrong surfaced. Although I did not have ANY problems with the SLK55 AMG the entire 10 years I had it, I thought my luck may run out soon at the time. The 5.5 liter V8 in the SLK55 AMG is a NA engine (more or less the same in the MB's line up EXCEPT without forced induction) is one of the most reliable engines in the MB models at the time. But it's the other things that will go wrong which will cost a kidney or two to fix (e.g., the hydraulic mechanism/motor for the hardtop convertible is some $3.5K to fix. Mine was still ok.).
I would not hesitate to go for a high mileage RCF IF I CAN CONFIRM ITS PROPER MAINTENANCE.
Good luck searching for the right RCF.
I had kept my old MB SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE when I bought my RCF. But after about three years of overlap ownership, the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE had just sat there and not getting driven that much. I decided to sell the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE BEFORE anything wrong surfaced. Although I did not have ANY problems with the SLK55 AMG the entire 10 years I had it, I thought my luck may run out soon at the time. The 5.5 liter V8 in the SLK55 AMG is a NA engine (more or less the same in the MB's line up EXCEPT without forced induction) is one of the most reliable engines in the MB models at the time. But it's the other things that will go wrong which will cost a kidney or two to fix (e.g., the hydraulic mechanism/motor for the hardtop convertible is some $3.5K to fix. Mine was still ok.).
I would not hesitate to go for a high mileage RCF IF I CAN CONFIRM ITS PROPER MAINTENANCE.
Good luck searching for the right RCF.
I trust my 200K+ mile Lexus way more than my 40K mile Mercedes. I've had 2 problems with the Mercedes at 40K miles vs 0 problems with either of my GS350's both 3rd and 4th gen at around 150K miles each. Well 1 problem with my 4th gen but that was because a fuse fell out and I couldn't figure it out lol. Drove an RCF, ISF and LC pretty hard around their little autocross course and I felt like the RCF performed probably the best. The LC felt very heavy and the ISF I honestly don't remember. But if you're looking for a more fun drive I'd get the RCF.
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For the long run, ANY LEXUS will be more reliable than ANY of the Euro brands. Costs less to run and maintain too.
I had kept my old MB SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE when I bought my RCF. But after about three years of overlap ownership, the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE had just sat there and not getting driven that much. I decided to sell the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE BEFORE anything wrong surfaced. Although I did not have ANY problems with the SLK55 AMG the entire 10 years I had it, I thought my luck may run out soon at the time. The 5.5 liter V8 in the SLK55 AMG is a NA engine (more or less the same in the MB's line up EXCEPT without forced induction) is one of the most reliable engines in the MB models at the time. But it's the other things that will go wrong which will cost a kidney or two to fix (e.g., the hydraulic mechanism/motor for the hardtop convertible is some $3.5K to fix. Mine was still ok.).
I would not hesitate to go for a high mileage RCF IF I CAN CONFIRM ITS PROPER MAINTENANCE.
Good luck searching for the right RCF.
I had kept my old MB SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE when I bought my RCF. But after about three years of overlap ownership, the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE had just sat there and not getting driven that much. I decided to sell the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE BEFORE anything wrong surfaced. Although I did not have ANY problems with the SLK55 AMG the entire 10 years I had it, I thought my luck may run out soon at the time. The 5.5 liter V8 in the SLK55 AMG is a NA engine (more or less the same in the MB's line up EXCEPT without forced induction) is one of the most reliable engines in the MB models at the time. But it's the other things that will go wrong which will cost a kidney or two to fix (e.g., the hydraulic mechanism/motor for the hardtop convertible is some $3.5K to fix. Mine was still ok.).
I would not hesitate to go for a high mileage RCF IF I CAN CONFIRM ITS PROPER MAINTENANCE.
Good luck searching for the right RCF.
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For the long run, ANY LEXUS will be more reliable than ANY of the Euro brands. Costs less to run and maintain too.
I had kept my old MB SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE when I bought my RCF. But after about three years of overlap ownership, the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE had just sat there and not getting driven that much. I decided to sell the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE BEFORE anything wrong surfaced. Although I did not have ANY problems with the SLK55 AMG the entire 10 years I had it, I thought my luck may run out soon at the time. The 5.5 liter V8 in the SLK55 AMG is a NA engine (more or less the same in the MB's line up EXCEPT without forced induction) is one of the most reliable engines in the MB models at the time. But it's the other things that will go wrong which will cost a kidney or two to fix (e.g., the hydraulic mechanism/motor for the hardtop convertible is some $3.5K to fix. Mine was still ok.).
I would not hesitate to go for a high mileage RCF IF I CAN CONFIRM ITS PROPER MAINTENANCE.
Good luck searching for the right RCF.
I had kept my old MB SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE when I bought my RCF. But after about three years of overlap ownership, the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE had just sat there and not getting driven that much. I decided to sell the SLK55 AMG HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE BEFORE anything wrong surfaced. Although I did not have ANY problems with the SLK55 AMG the entire 10 years I had it, I thought my luck may run out soon at the time. The 5.5 liter V8 in the SLK55 AMG is a NA engine (more or less the same in the MB's line up EXCEPT without forced induction) is one of the most reliable engines in the MB models at the time. But it's the other things that will go wrong which will cost a kidney or two to fix (e.g., the hydraulic mechanism/motor for the hardtop convertible is some $3.5K to fix. Mine was still ok.).
I would not hesitate to go for a high mileage RCF IF I CAN CONFIRM ITS PROPER MAINTENANCE.
Good luck searching for the right RCF.
What’s high miles for an rcf? I imagine it’ll be beat more than a gs, I drive around 15k miles a year if not more so starting at like one with 140k miles may not be wise
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From someone who did the same things in my teens and 20s, don't try to buy something like an RCF with that budget. Even if you can barely afford the car itself, insurance for a single 24-year old may be just as high as the monthly payment for the car (that's what happened to me buying a 93 300ZX at 19, wasn't even a turbo and insurance was more than the payment). Maintenance isn't too bad if you have an independent, but you will need to replace tires and brake pads more often.
I know you probably won't listen as I wouldn't have, but it isn't worth it at this point.
Get a used Accord coupe V6 in manual. That would be a pretty dam cool car that would be super cheap to buy and maintain.
I know you probably won't listen as I wouldn't have, but it isn't worth it at this point.
Get a used Accord coupe V6 in manual. That would be a pretty dam cool car that would be super cheap to buy and maintain.
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From someone who did the same things in my teens and 20s, don't try to buy something like an RCF with that budget. Even if you can barely afford the car itself, insurance for a single 24-year old may be just as high as the monthly payment for the car (that's what happened to me buying a 93 300ZX at 19, wasn't even a turbo and insurance was more than the payment). Maintenance isn't too bad if you have an independent, but you will need to replace tires and brake pads more often.
I know you probably won't listen as I wouldn't have, but it isn't worth it at this point.
Get a used Accord coupe V6 in manual. That would be a pretty dam cool car that would be super cheap to buy and maintain.
I know you probably won't listen as I wouldn't have, but it isn't worth it at this point.
Get a used Accord coupe V6 in manual. That would be a pretty dam cool car that would be super cheap to buy and maintain.
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I see what you are saying.
Given your perimeters I would recommend a very low mileage (less than 20K miles) RCF (but will be at a higher entry cost).
Or go for a well maintained high mileage RCF (around 100K miles or less) and drive it around for another 5 years at 15K miles a year. This will take it to around 175K miles which is no sweat for a well maintained RCF. Then you can decide to keep it or sell it at that time 5 years from now. This option will give you the MOST VALUE. But keep in mind the running cost/maintenance costs. Tires, brakes, fluids changes, spark plugs change at 60K, and etc.
I have currently around 76K miles on my 2015 RCF. I bought as an L certified from a Lexus dealer with some 18xx miles on the ODO. Absolute no problems. Only the regular maintenance and the two recalls (low pressure fuel pump and the high pressure fuel railings). There might have been a couple more recalls involving air bag and the Enform communication module??? I don't remember exactly.... But it's all good.
Given your perimeters I would recommend a very low mileage (less than 20K miles) RCF (but will be at a higher entry cost).
Or go for a well maintained high mileage RCF (around 100K miles or less) and drive it around for another 5 years at 15K miles a year. This will take it to around 175K miles which is no sweat for a well maintained RCF. Then you can decide to keep it or sell it at that time 5 years from now. This option will give you the MOST VALUE. But keep in mind the running cost/maintenance costs. Tires, brakes, fluids changes, spark plugs change at 60K, and etc.
I have currently around 76K miles on my 2015 RCF. I bought as an L certified from a Lexus dealer with some 18xx miles on the ODO. Absolute no problems. Only the regular maintenance and the two recalls (low pressure fuel pump and the high pressure fuel railings). There might have been a couple more recalls involving air bag and the Enform communication module??? I don't remember exactly.... But it's all good.
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Op. We do t yet know where the high mileage expensive repairs are for the RCF as they haven’t been out long enough. Lots of ISF’s with 200k and no major issues. Lexus cars don’t have anywhere near the same electrical issues and maintenance gremlins that other cars have. They are much better made cars. I’ve put on over a million miles in Toyota’s and won’t buy any other brand simply because of reliability. Buy an RCF and expect it won’t give you any trouble for the first 2-300k. Seriously
change the oil and fluids and your golden.
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change the oil and fluids and your golden.
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I would not go for the 33k - 38K RCFs. They typically could be 2015 high mileage, lower spec with wear and tear interior/exterior, past accidents etc. Those would be absolutely the lowest end of the spectrum sales. If you want a decent, well maintained and mint conditioned RCF with good specs and not very high mileage, you are going to be looking into the 40s. If you look at mint conditioned, well spec'ed2016+ RCF and GSF, they are very close in price.
Not to sound like a jerk, but if your budget is aiming for the cheapest available RCF. If you are budget is in the 30s then I don't know if RCF would be the right car as it costs quite a bit to maintain as well. Tires, brakes etc. all cost quite a lot for it, if you pick the suitable parts for the cars.
Not to sound like a jerk, but if your budget is aiming for the cheapest available RCF. If you are budget is in the 30s then I don't know if RCF would be the right car as it costs quite a bit to maintain as well. Tires, brakes etc. all cost quite a lot for it, if you pick the suitable parts for the cars.
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It was just over 1 year old at the time. Almost brand new (still looks brand new). About 8000 miles on it. Carbon fiber/TVD package + all other options. I am in Calgary, Alberta so I paid cash through a private sale from another member on this board. All in, it cost me $65K CAD (MSRP brand new was $94K CAD). No tax on it since it was a private sale.
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It was just over 1 year old at the time. Almost brand new (still looks brand new). About 8000 miles on it. Carbon fiber/TVD package + all other options. I am in Calgary, Alberta so I paid cash through a private sale from another member on this board. All in, it cost me $65K CAD (MSRP brand new was $94K CAD). No tax on it since it was a private sale.
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That is true. Got lucky after 10 months of searching. Had PPF and tint already on it. It is the only one in my city with molten pearl and carbon/TVD. I even travelled 2 hours north to see another one just like mine, which was a dealership demo, but it had 16,000 miles and had curb rash, rock chips. Funny thing is, they were asking for MORE and were not willing to negotiate than this private seller who was willing to reduce $2000. I came back and quickly made the deal LOL
The dealership even featured that exact RCF in a promotional video. It looks great in the video, but in real life I saw wear on it.
The dealership even featured that exact RCF in a promotional video. It looks great in the video, but in real life I saw wear on it.
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You got great choices there! Both GS350 F-Sport and RCF are just sweet rides to consider!
You might also wanna take a look at the GS-Fs too although they're just a little pricey for a sedan
Here are some of our customer's RCF for your inspiration though. Enjoy!!
- Both White RCFs are sitting on our BD-11 wheels. One with the Matte Antique Bronze and the other one's on Polished Rose-Gold finish
- The Blue RCF's on our Silver BD-23 wheels with Chrome SS Lip
You might also wanna take a look at the GS-Fs too although they're just a little pricey for a sedan
Here are some of our customer's RCF for your inspiration though. Enjoy!!
- Both White RCFs are sitting on our BD-11 wheels. One with the Matte Antique Bronze and the other one's on Polished Rose-Gold finish
- The Blue RCF's on our Silver BD-23 wheels with Chrome SS Lip
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