Recently sold my GSF to get something different but find myself itching for another 2UR again. Don't care to spend as much since I don't need a 4 door sedan(already have a good daily for that task). I keep hearing/seeing that GSF is a more balanced track vehicle vs the RFC. Granted, I doubt I'll actually spend anytime on a track but do plan on hitting up back roads for spirited drives. Anyone who's spent a decent time behind the wheels of both cars care to chime and provide their take on one vs the other?

 

Subjectively, it is an opinion based on capability of the driver and how they understand. Everyone is going to say something different so there is no right or wrong here. Both are great in their own ways.

Objectively, what do we know? RCF is about 1 foot shorter, same width, has a much shorter wheelbase, lighter and stiffer overall (chassis is over 50% stiffer according to Lexus). GSF being long wheelbase, gives more stability and it also benefits from standard TVD, which helps it make feel shorter than it actually is. More stability gives ease of handling while shorter wheelbase and stiffer core makes the RCF inherently more responsive to sudden inputs, but more tricky to handle. It will snap understeer/oversteer more easily, but a highly capable driver would ultimately carry more speed.

Physics inherently favors smaller, stiffer, lighter at the limits all else being the same, but most drivers cannot go 9/10ths or 10/10ths. The GSF gets all of that extra practicality and ride comfort so there is a compromise both ways. The differences are pretty clear.

 

Thanks for the great explanation. Ya, if I do get into an RCF, I will want one with the TVD(my understanding is the older models with Carbon package have it). I know the RCF gets beat on sometimes by youtubers such as Savage Geese for being a "skunkworks" car instead of built from the ground up like the GSF.

 

Not sure he was trolling or what, but it was not built as a "skunkworks" as it was planned alongside the RC (skunkworks cars are built off-hours, using existing parts, without knowledge of the executives and without a proper approved budget). TVD was entirely designed and developed for the RCF. RC chassis started out with RCF when the RC was developed side by side (rather than being an afterthought years later) and then 70% of the RC became different from RCF in terms of suspension/chassis work. Also, they did not go for the GS or IS platform because it needed to meet the rigidity targets they had set to facilitate the GT3 racing program. The powertrain, TVD, GT3 etc, development were all in the RCF budget. All of the other cars inherited it came later so they did not have to worry about re-engineering an engine and a transmission.

 

Not sure if there is a misunderstanding or perhaps savage geese video was not specific enough, there is some truth, in that...there was an original skunkworks project that would eventually become an F car, the original ISF.

 

Why not an LC?….RCF is great but it’s like a lateral move (if not half a step down depending on how you see it due to the lesser doors).

 

Thats the ISF. Passion project and the first F car.