Brakes, pads and rotors? Help Please.
#76
hitthepin,
For the pads, are they 2 per unit ordered or only one wheel? Do I need to order two set for the front axle or 2 for the rear axle?
Thanks,
-Johnny
For the pads, are they 2 per unit ordered or only one wheel? Do I need to order two set for the front axle or 2 for the rear axle?
Thanks,
-Johnny
After making some calls, I took TunedRx's suggestion and went with the Rotora's and Akebono combination. Thanks for all the help. I'll post how the job went when all the parts get here.
..and if anyone is in the market for new brakes here are the exact part numbers. I hope its not against any forum rules to list part numbers.
www.rockauto.com
AKEBONO Part # ACT325
Rear - ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad {OE Ceramic}
AKEBONO Part # ACT930
Front - ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad {OE Ceramic}
..and if anyone is in the market for new brakes here are the exact part numbers. I hope its not against any forum rules to list part numbers.
www.rockauto.com
AKEBONO Part # ACT325
Rear - ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad {OE Ceramic}
AKEBONO Part # ACT930
Front - ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad {OE Ceramic}
#77
You'll only have to order one of each, ACT920 and ACT325. Each box will have 4 pads in them. Obviously 2 each for the front and 2 each for the back. It will also come with a small tube of the high friction brake grease(dressing) and shims already attached.
Some here have cleaned and re-used the old factory shims. I did not. I used what came with the pads and have not had any squeaks or squeals. Witht he combo that I installed.
When you pop the pads out, I forgot if it was front or back or both, but the factory pads have a wear sensor on top and bottom of the pad. The Akebono's will only have it on one end. Since I plan to install any future pads or rotors and monitor my cars brakes regularly, I didn't bother to pull the extra sensor off the old pad and clip it on to the new one.
Figured one is good enough and most of the time you'll know when the car isn't braking well.
#78
Thanks again. Regarding the shims, should I take it off and put grease on both sides of the shims?
#79
The factory pads have 2 very thin shims on them. The aftermarket Akebono's only come with one. Factory and aftermarket shims are not the same and clip on a bit different.
On the front pads, the shims that came with the Akebono's just pulled right off. From there I greased both sides, then installed them.
The rear pad shims were held onto the pad by an adhesive. Did NOT just pull right off and when I pealed it off, it left some sticker type residue. I cleaned this off the best I could by rubbing it out with a towel and then greased both sides...then installed.
I wasn't sure if I should pull the rear shim from the adhesive, but I figured logically, if I greased both sides on the front, why not do the same on the rear.
Please take that for what its worth. Like I said, I haven't had a problem with mine and its been about 400miles. So its still brand new on my car.
Post this question in "your" thread too and also do a search. I decided to this job on my own after reading a procedure posted by another member on this forum.
#80
Thanks! I will just go that way.
Good question: This is where I wasn't certain of the process. Here's what I did and hopefully if I did something wrong, I welcome the veteran members of the forum to correct me.
The factory pads have 2 very thin shims on them. The aftermarket Akebono's only come with one. Factory and aftermarket shims are not the same and clip on a bit different.
On the front pads, the shims that came with the Akebono's just pulled right off. From there I greased both sides, then installed them.
The rear pad shims were held onto the pad by an adhesive. Did NOT just pull right off and when I pealed it off, it left some sticker type residue. I cleaned this off the best I could by rubbing it out with a towel and then greased both sides...then installed.
I wasn't sure if I should pull the rear shim from the adhesive, but I figured logically, if I greased both sides on the front, why not do the same on the rear.
Please take that for what its worth. Like I said, I haven't had a problem with mine and its been about 400miles. So its still brand new on my car.
Post this question in "your" thread too and also do a search. I decided to this job on my own after reading a procedure posted by another member on this forum.
The factory pads have 2 very thin shims on them. The aftermarket Akebono's only come with one. Factory and aftermarket shims are not the same and clip on a bit different.
On the front pads, the shims that came with the Akebono's just pulled right off. From there I greased both sides, then installed them.
The rear pad shims were held onto the pad by an adhesive. Did NOT just pull right off and when I pealed it off, it left some sticker type residue. I cleaned this off the best I could by rubbing it out with a towel and then greased both sides...then installed.
I wasn't sure if I should pull the rear shim from the adhesive, but I figured logically, if I greased both sides on the front, why not do the same on the rear.
Please take that for what its worth. Like I said, I haven't had a problem with mine and its been about 400miles. So its still brand new on my car.
Post this question in "your" thread too and also do a search. I decided to this job on my own after reading a procedure posted by another member on this forum.
#81
Thanks. When I bleed the brakes, is it necessary to replace bleeder valve? I have the hose, a handmade bleed pump, and a can of fresh ATE Super Blue in my house. Do I go with the RR, LR, RF, LF order? Also, do you bleed each wheel after you change the pad and rotors or do you bleed after finish changing 4 wheels?
Bleeding concludes the brake job, any work on the brake is consider by many to increase the chance of introducing air into the system. Therefore bleeding is a standard safety procedure.
BTW, the difference of cast vs drilled holes is the amount of stress introduced to the rotor. Rotors take a beating every time you brake, drilled rotors have higher chance of cracking. This is the reasons many professional racers prefer slotted rotors. But I agree cross-drilled rotors look nice, and casted cross-drilled rotors are expensive for a reason.
#82
Thanks for the explanation... I stick with Brembo OEM blanks because I have seen quite a few cases of crack rotors on the track from those "drilled" rotors that are for looks only.
No need to replace bleeder screw if stock ones are perfectly functional. Mine was rusted so I had to replace them to bleed brake fluid.
Bleeding concludes the brake job, any work on the brake is consider by many to increase the chance of introducing air into the system. Therefore bleeding is a standard safety procedure.
BTW, the difference of cast vs drilled holes is the amount of stress introduced to the rotor. Rotors take a beating every time you brake, drilled rotors have higher chance of cracking. This is the reasons many professional racers prefer slotted rotors. But I agree cross-drilled rotors look nice, and casted cross-drilled rotors are expensive for a reason.
Bleeding concludes the brake job, any work on the brake is consider by many to increase the chance of introducing air into the system. Therefore bleeding is a standard safety procedure.
BTW, the difference of cast vs drilled holes is the amount of stress introduced to the rotor. Rotors take a beating every time you brake, drilled rotors have higher chance of cracking. This is the reasons many professional racers prefer slotted rotors. But I agree cross-drilled rotors look nice, and casted cross-drilled rotors are expensive for a reason.
#85
Thanks. When I bleed the brakes, is it necessary to replace bleeder valve? I have the hose, a handmade bleed pump, and a can of fresh ATE Super Blue in my house. Do I go with the RR, LR, RF, LF order? Also, do you bleed each wheel after you change the pad and rotors or do you bleed after finish changing 4 wheels?
Mu apologies for all these questions.
Mu apologies for all these questions.
Yes, RR, LR, RF, LF is correct, the order is farthest from the main cylinder to the closest one.
I would change all pads/rotors first, then bleed, since you will be pushing some old liquid back when compressing the calipers.
#86
I've got the same thing installed 3 weeks ago and it was one of the best brakes I ever had on any of my cars. Just go easy on them for the first 200 miles or so. And, there will be some black dust in the beginning but after a 1000 miles there is almost none.
#88
I did the job yesterday because I also had a shimmy when brakes were applied, and the rotors had grease on them. This caused theglazing to be uneven and created the vibes.
Took them out turned them and installed with the same pads after rubbing them against rought concrete.
Stops great and no vibes.
$20 repair for me
#89
Rear disk doesn't want to come off
When replacing the rear brake pads this afternoon I noticed that the pivoting pin on the rear-driver side is frozen with the caliper - the caliper doesn't slide on this pin.
Upon searching on the net, I found that there are two types of rear brake calipers - one uses a pivoting pin and privoting bolt to mount the caliper to the mounting braket; the other uses two pivoting bolts instead, as most other vehicles do. What is the advantage of using the pivoting pin instead of a pivoting bolt?
Also, I like to have the rear disks machined. They seem to stuck. The vehicle is in park and the parking brake is not engaged. With the calipers and mounting brackets cleared from the disks, I tried with my two hands to shake the disks, but they don't seem to move even a little bit.
Need your advice on how to take the rear brake disks off.
Upon searching on the net, I found that there are two types of rear brake calipers - one uses a pivoting pin and privoting bolt to mount the caliper to the mounting braket; the other uses two pivoting bolts instead, as most other vehicles do. What is the advantage of using the pivoting pin instead of a pivoting bolt?
Also, I like to have the rear disks machined. They seem to stuck. The vehicle is in park and the parking brake is not engaged. With the calipers and mounting brackets cleared from the disks, I tried with my two hands to shake the disks, but they don't seem to move even a little bit.
Need your advice on how to take the rear brake disks off.
#90
Do a search on ebay and you will find all 4 corners drilled/slotted with good brake pads for less than $300.00 They will improve your braking and they also looks cool.
Check the link below
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Check the link below
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