P1346, P1351 and others on new engine
#16
Thanks for the info. Yeah, I did it by myself. I know, I'm crazy.
I knew about the timing marks on the sprockets and timing covers but I thought I had everything lined up properly. The rear camshaft timing mark behind the camshaft sprocket is hard to see. It's on a difficult angle. Looking back, I learned alot from this job. I neglected to make my own marks on the sprockets and timing covers BEFORE taking off the old belt. I'll never do that again.
I have air tools but even the impact driver I have wasn't enough to break loose the crankshaft bolt. I had to use a breaker bar and lock the flywheel after taking off the starter.
I still don't understand why the engine runs fine but the code is setting because the sprocket is off by only one tooth. Seems awefully sensitive. It seems like I have two options; live with the CEL until I have to replace the belt again or take it all apart and turn the sprocket again!?!?!? UGH!!!!!
I knew about the timing marks on the sprockets and timing covers but I thought I had everything lined up properly. The rear camshaft timing mark behind the camshaft sprocket is hard to see. It's on a difficult angle. Looking back, I learned alot from this job. I neglected to make my own marks on the sprockets and timing covers BEFORE taking off the old belt. I'll never do that again.
I have air tools but even the impact driver I have wasn't enough to break loose the crankshaft bolt. I had to use a breaker bar and lock the flywheel after taking off the starter.
I still don't understand why the engine runs fine but the code is setting because the sprocket is off by only one tooth. Seems awefully sensitive. It seems like I have two options; live with the CEL until I have to replace the belt again or take it all apart and turn the sprocket again!?!?!? UGH!!!!!
#17
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Thread Starter
Thanks for the info. Yeah, I did it by myself. I know, I'm crazy.
I knew about the timing marks on the sprockets and timing covers but I thought I had everything lined up properly. The rear camshaft timing mark behind the camshaft sprocket is hard to see. It's on a difficult angle. Looking back, I learned alot from this job. I neglected to make my own marks on the sprockets and timing covers BEFORE taking off the old belt. I'll never do that again.
I have air tools but even the impact driver I have wasn't enough to break loose the crankshaft bolt. I had to use a breaker bar and lock the flywheel after taking off the starter.
I still don't understand why the engine runs fine but the code is setting because the sprocket is off by only one tooth. Seems awefully sensitive. It seems like I have two options; live with the CEL until I have to replace the belt again or take it all apart and turn the sprocket again!?!?!? UGH!!!!!
I knew about the timing marks on the sprockets and timing covers but I thought I had everything lined up properly. The rear camshaft timing mark behind the camshaft sprocket is hard to see. It's on a difficult angle. Looking back, I learned alot from this job. I neglected to make my own marks on the sprockets and timing covers BEFORE taking off the old belt. I'll never do that again.
I have air tools but even the impact driver I have wasn't enough to break loose the crankshaft bolt. I had to use a breaker bar and lock the flywheel after taking off the starter.
I still don't understand why the engine runs fine but the code is setting because the sprocket is off by only one tooth. Seems awefully sensitive. It seems like I have two options; live with the CEL until I have to replace the belt again or take it all apart and turn the sprocket again!?!?!? UGH!!!!!
Here is the quote from the Service Manual:
"VVT sensor (VV1 or VV2 signal) consist of a signal plate and pickup coil. The VV1 or VV2 signal plate has 1 tooth on its outer circumference and is mounted on the intake camshafts. When the camshafts rotate, the protrusion on the signal plate and the air gap on the pickup coil change, causing fluctuations in the magnetic field and generating an electromotive force in the pickup coil.
The actual camshaft angle is detected by the VVT sensor and it provides feedback to the ECM to control the intake valve timing in response to during condition."
Last edited by Meetya; 06-25-07 at 10:27 PM.
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#20
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I won't be able to help you much on this as I haven't had the luxury of working on my own RX300 in this area...yet.
However, when my uncle and I have encountered this problem, notoriously on a 3.0 X5 a few months back, it ended up being the actual camshaft sensor itself. I have never seen nor heard of case involving a stretched belt either. On older vehicles, my uncle does a trial and error involving adjusting timing.
Meetya probably has the best experience here.
However, when my uncle and I have encountered this problem, notoriously on a 3.0 X5 a few months back, it ended up being the actual camshaft sensor itself. I have never seen nor heard of case involving a stretched belt either. On older vehicles, my uncle does a trial and error involving adjusting timing.
Meetya probably has the best experience here.
#22
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#23
Is there some kind of diagnostic tool that he uses; maybe something that you connect to the ECU that tells you how far the timing is out and exactly how far and in what direction to turn the camshaft in order to correct the timing and thereby eliminate the code??
#24
Super Moderator
Thinking more about this, I can take a closer look at this on the weekend on my RX.
Last edited by Lexmex; 08-06-07 at 09:12 PM.
#25
I appreciate any advice you can give. I want to make sure I can get this done and have everything I need before I attempt it.
#26
Super Moderator
I am sure you will do better than the dealers down here. My uncle gets a few every so often that he has to adjust timing on after the dealer bungled the job and wanted more money.
#27
I need to have this car inspected and it won't pass with a CEL.
Anyone know if I disconnect the camshaft position sensor and clear the codes, will the code come back with the lead disconnected??
Anyone know if I disconnect the camshaft position sensor and clear the codes, will the code come back with the lead disconnected??
#28
Super Moderator
Haven't done this on an RX, but on other vehicles disconnecting it caused it not to start or sputter This sensor is related to the timing of the spark plugs.
#29
Super Moderator
colenzae,
I am my uncle's now, but we won't be able get to this until tomorrow as my uncle and I have a full shop today to attend to.
He mentioned he worked on an 01 Maxima the other day that also had a similar error. However, in that case, the belt that had been used for the job was an el cheapo and was indeed skipping teeth so my uncle got a better quality one and all was good. In addition,the belt had some play in it and was a little wide left and right, respectively, of the timing marks. My uncle suspects this happens on a lot of older and OBDI vehicles (he used to work in California in the 80s and rarely saw this) at high altitude here, especially in summer time and people just don't know any better until they feel or have a problem, which is one thing he really likes about OBDII and the scanner I gave him as a gift.
I am my uncle's now, but we won't be able get to this until tomorrow as my uncle and I have a full shop today to attend to.
He mentioned he worked on an 01 Maxima the other day that also had a similar error. However, in that case, the belt that had been used for the job was an el cheapo and was indeed skipping teeth so my uncle got a better quality one and all was good. In addition,the belt had some play in it and was a little wide left and right, respectively, of the timing marks. My uncle suspects this happens on a lot of older and OBDI vehicles (he used to work in California in the 80s and rarely saw this) at high altitude here, especially in summer time and people just don't know any better until they feel or have a problem, which is one thing he really likes about OBDII and the scanner I gave him as a gift.