Lexus Short Key vs. Long Key
#31
Lexus Test Driver
Finally got time to try your suggestions, just hammered with work this week. Nothing new to report though. As far as I can tell, there are no changes to it electrically. I am not the original owner though, I am the third. So you just never know. But from a quick glance under the dash, everything seems original.
If their security behaves as yours does, then it is time to look a little further into the numbers on that remote you are trying to program. It also may be worth a try to send a email to tech support at toy-lex.com.
#32
You can re-program your valet key to be recognized as the master if you have at least 1 master key.
#33
Lexus Test Driver
Yes. You can program a remote key as valet and a non-remote key as master, the remote itself does not guarantee that the key is master. The difference would be that the security light stops flashing when a master key is inserted. Valet key will keep the light flashing until you start the engine.
You can re-program your valet key to be recognized as the master if you have at least 1 master key.
You can re-program your valet key to be recognized as the master if you have at least 1 master key.
Also how would you program a key to be a master or valet? It looks like the programming steps are the same for both and the electronics in the key determines whether it is a master or valet.
#34
I remember reading about watching the blinking turn off as a way to tell a master key from valet, somewhere - I can't find it in the manual, though.
The sure way to test if the key is a valet or master is to try to enter the programming mode using it. If it is a valet key, after you press the pedals and take it out, the security light will go on (i.e. the ECU will not enter programming mode). With the master key, it will stay off.
#35
Also, I don't know if you can re-add the valet key that is already programmed as a master. What you could do though is to delete all programmed key but 1 master. To do so:
1. Insert master key in the cylinder
2. Within 15 seconds, press and release accel pedal 6 times
3. Within 20 seconds, press and release brake pedal 7 times
4. Within 10 seconds, remove the master key
5. Wait 25 seconds without any operation (including opening doors, etc.)
This will erase all keys except the one you use to perform the procedure.
1. Insert master key in the cylinder
2. Within 15 seconds, press and release accel pedal 6 times
3. Within 20 seconds, press and release brake pedal 7 times
4. Within 10 seconds, remove the master key
5. Wait 25 seconds without any operation (including opening doors, etc.)
This will erase all keys except the one you use to perform the procedure.
#36
Lexus Test Driver
The programming steps are not the same. You push accel 5 times, break 6 times to program the key as master, accel 4 times and break 5 times to program it as "sub"-key, i.e. valet. See factory repair manual, pp. BE-220 & BE-222.
I remember reading about watching the blinking turn off as a way to tell a master key from valet, somewhere - I can't find it in the manual, though.
The sure way to test if the key is a valet or master is to try to enter the programming mode using it. If it is a valet key, after you press the pedals and take it out, the security light will go on (i.e. the ECU will not enter programming mode). With the master key, it will stay off.
I remember reading about watching the blinking turn off as a way to tell a master key from valet, somewhere - I can't find it in the manual, though.
The sure way to test if the key is a valet or master is to try to enter the programming mode using it. If it is a valet key, after you press the pedals and take it out, the security light will go on (i.e. the ECU will not enter programming mode). With the master key, it will stay off.
As far as determining master vs. valet I found the answer online and just verified it on my RX: Security light is flashing without key. If you insert master key light goes out immediately. If you insert valet key light stays on for 1 sec then goes out. Still all this is without any turning of the key.
So Kevin1000, you need to try this to determine if your master is programmed as a master or valet. Or if yours keeps flashing until key is turned, then I don't know what to think. Unless it's different for a 2000. Sure wish someone would verify this.
Last edited by mikey00; 09-07-08 at 02:02 PM.
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Well, the dealerships are all closed on Sundays, so I disconnected the battery for about half an hour to see, and nothing changed. And my remote key, which I would consider the master, does not behave the way you describe even a valet dey would, i.e. the light does not go off even after a second.
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