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Old 10-26-08, 10:17 PM
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Ok, so the tranny is going. I have all the signs (slipping, acts like neutral in reverse etc) Unfortunately, these signs are sporadic and hard to replicate with the mechanic sitting in the seat. Luckily, I have a dealer warranty that totally covers it. However, they are not wanting to do anything until I am broken down on the side of the road with no movement.

I can understand they don't want to shell out the money until absolutely having to. However, my problem is I have a 2 and a 4 year old that drive around with my wife in the city all the time and I do not want them breaking down on the side (or middle) of they busy freeways.

So, my question is how would I go about "laying my transmission to rest" in the "vicinity" of my house? I was told to just jam it into park. However, I don't want to do anything that they can come back and say I abused the tranny or something ( I don't know if they could tell that I did that but I assume they could).

I'm not trying to be unethical here - I have 20K / 2 yrs left on my warranty so I know it's going before that is expired. I just know the inevitable is coming and I want my family to be safe when it does.

Thanks for any input/help.
Old 10-26-08, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HygieneDad
Ok, so the tranny is going. I have all the signs (slipping, acts like neutral in reverse etc) Unfortunately, these signs are sporadic and hard to replicate with the mechanic sitting in the seat. Luckily, I have a dealer warranty that totally covers it. However, they are not wanting to do anything until I am broken down on the side of the road with no movement.

I can understand they don't want to shell out the money until absolutely having to. However, my problem is I have a 2 and a 4 year old that drive around with my wife in the city all the time and I do not want them breaking down on the side (or middle) of they busy freeways.

So, my question is how would I go about "laying my transmission to rest" in the "vicinity" of my house? I was told to just jam it into park. However, I don't want to do anything that they can come back and say I abused the tranny or something ( I don't know if they could tell that I did that but I assume they could).

I'm not trying to be unethical here - I have 20K / 2 yrs left on my warranty so I know it's going before that is expired. I just know the inevitable is coming and I want my family to be safe when it does.

Thanks for any input/help.
I don't condone doing anything unethical but one thing I WOULDN"T do is what you asked about. They would spot that in a heartbeat and the tranny bill would be on you in less than a heartbeat. They would know IMMEDIATELY what you did, trust me. If you have 2 yrs. and 20k mi. left on the warrantee, bide your time and let it take it's course. You'll sleep better at night and you can be honest about whatever questions they ask you.
Old 10-27-08, 04:19 AM
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When the transmission in my 1999 RX failed at about 110K, in a manner just like yours, it remained (barely) driveable but the dealer was able to do something to diagnose the problem; I'm not sure whether the test procedure was electrical, mechanical, or hydraulic.
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Jab,Was the transmission replaced then?
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It depends on who is warranting the car. If your car is covered by an extended warranty program, I'd go get a second opinion from another dealer. Yours may be gambling that your warranty expires before your transmission. It's sad but true; not all Lexus dealers provide "the Lexus Experience".
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I wouldn't recommend jamming it in park or anything like that. But being that Lexus does not open up the trans, just replaces them, I don't think they would really know.
What I would do is next time the trans is acting up is give it the gas and push it a bit. Nothing unethical about that.
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Originally Posted by Lil4X
It depends on who is warranting the car. If your car is covered by an extended warranty program, I'd go get a second opinion from another dealer. Yours may be gambling that your warranty expires before your transmission. It's sad but true; not all Lexus dealers provide "the Lexus Experience".
Plus some of those after market warranties,require you to pay for the repair in full.And then seek reimbersment from the warranty company.
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Originally Posted by lexus114
Jab,Was the transmission replaced then?
Yes, it was replaced.
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Great, mine is slipping a little too. It was replaced under warranty at about 70,000 and now it needs another new one at 170,000.

I never thought I'd say this but my Saab's transmission seems to hold up better than this one, I had to replace that one at 60k.

Money pit!!!
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Originally Posted by LeGiT SaaB
Great, mine is slipping a little too. It was replaced under warranty at about 70,000 and now it needs another new one at 170,000.

I never thought I'd say this but my Saab's transmission seems to hold up better than this one, I had to replace that one at 60k.

Money pit!!!
I think this trans was rushed into production,Like the Chrysler 604`s were.With out the proper testing etc.
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Originally Posted by lexus114
I think this trans was rushed into production,Like the Chrysler 604`s were.With out the proper testing etc.
Is the RX trans in any other Lexus models?
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Originally Posted by LeGiT SaaB
Is the RX trans in any other Lexus models?
I`m not sure about that,Maybe the U140E (2wd) in the ES. Also the Rav4 uses this transmission(very similar version any way) But their lighter vehicles. And the 2wd RX`s don`t seem as problem prone.
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Originally Posted by HygieneDad

Thanks for any input/help.
I sympathize with you, but the discussion is flirting with insurance fraud.

I would recommend, sending a register letter stating the risk of untimely and catastrophic failure.

Others?

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Originally Posted by HygieneDad
Ok, so the tranny is going. I have all the signs (slipping, acts like neutral in reverse etc)
Have you or the dealer checked the fluid level and color?
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I have been down the road already with the dealer with regards to possible outcomes. They flat out do not care. They require the issue to be "replicable" and because it is sporadic, it never happens at the "right moment" when a mechanic is in the car. The issue is it is not a Lexus warranty but an aftermarket warranty the Acura dealer sold me. I have a hard time thinking that it goes the route of insurance fraud for the simple fact that the tranny is going and will go by the time the warranty is up. It is just a matter of where, not when.


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