Cyl 3 misfire, CODES on Looking for
#46
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
On cyl 3 I found 1 struck valve thats open(exhaust). The pictures are after adding seafoam last time & hence lots of the carbon build has dislodged around in the piston /valves. So i have soaked cyl 3 with MMO till the plug thread, so it can essentially work on the open valve. Thinking of hand cranking about four times during this 48 hr wait. I know it may not help the situation if its a broken valve spring but if its not i hope it works. Any thoughts appreciate guys. Even if valve issue resolves by this method i am hoping to do 2 more soak treatment/ crankcase Oil flush.
The following users liked this post:
offroadtrd (06-11-24)
#47
Lexus Test Driver
#48
Driver
Thread Starter
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
#49
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Glad to see you making progress OP, here is a thread about replacing valve springs (2GR-FE) while engine in car (if valve is not stuck or damaged, and valve guide is not damaged):
https://www.toyotanation.com/threads...der-3.1761757/
https://www.toyotanation.com/threads...der-3.1761757/
The following users liked this post:
offroadtrd (06-14-24)
#51
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zmXyB38mRg
starts around the 4 minute mark
Amazing product based on video.
starts around the 4 minute mark
Amazing product based on video.
Fingers crossed OP is lucky enough to have this resolve his issue
#52
Lexus Test Driver
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Ok, this is odd.
I'm posting on this thread about this engine with you all and on my TV last night >out of the clear blue< YouTube recommends me 2gr engine videos.
I'm feeling a little stalked by youtube right now. Lol
Anyway, I watched a video on a 2gr engine failure and the man warned NOT to let a machine shop resurface the heads on these motors. He said if the heads do need to be resurfaced, buy a good head and junk the old one. Reason why is supposedly shaving the head to clean it up just a tiny bit will throw phantom cam code errors that can never be resolved due to the precise distancing of everything. He said use nothing more than scotch Brite to clean the head and engine mating surfaces.
Wow, that's some tight precision on these engines.
I'm posting on this thread about this engine with you all and on my TV last night >out of the clear blue< YouTube recommends me 2gr engine videos.
I'm feeling a little stalked by youtube right now. Lol
Anyway, I watched a video on a 2gr engine failure and the man warned NOT to let a machine shop resurface the heads on these motors. He said if the heads do need to be resurfaced, buy a good head and junk the old one. Reason why is supposedly shaving the head to clean it up just a tiny bit will throw phantom cam code errors that can never be resolved due to the precise distancing of everything. He said use nothing more than scotch Brite to clean the head and engine mating surfaces.
Wow, that's some tight precision on these engines.
#53
Driver
Thread Starter
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Ok, this is odd.
I'm posting on this thread about this engine with you all and on my TV last night >out of the clear blue< YouTube recommends me 2gr engine videos.
I'm feeling a little stalked by youtube right now. Lol
Anyway, I watched a video on a 2gr engine failure and the man warned NOT to let a machine shop resurface the heads on these motors. He said if the heads do need to be resurfaced, buy a good head and junk the old one. Reason why is supposedly shaving the head to clean it up just a tiny bit will throw phantom cam code errors that can never be resolved due to the precise distancing of everything. He said use nothing more than scotch Brite to clean the head and engine mating surfaces.
Wow, that's some tight precision on these engines.
I'm posting on this thread about this engine with you all and on my TV last night >out of the clear blue< YouTube recommends me 2gr engine videos.
I'm feeling a little stalked by youtube right now. Lol
Anyway, I watched a video on a 2gr engine failure and the man warned NOT to let a machine shop resurface the heads on these motors. He said if the heads do need to be resurfaced, buy a good head and junk the old one. Reason why is supposedly shaving the head to clean it up just a tiny bit will throw phantom cam code errors that can never be resolved due to the precise distancing of everything. He said use nothing more than scotch Brite to clean the head and engine mating surfaces.
Wow, that's some tight precision on these engines.
I blv you watched Carcarenut say that not to machine head due to timing errors would crop up...these 2gr engines are made with very fine tolerance i blv.
#54
Driver
Thread Starter
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
![](https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clublexus.com-vbulletin/1500x2000/lx11_de67223ee716a4c48c0a9cb9b5c2588cd6d69251.jpg)
![](https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clublexus.com-vbulletin/2000x1504/lx12_d8cbe8ac9bfeced67951a84984fbc5dd8948a11c.jpg)
![](https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clublexus.com-vbulletin/2000x1504/lx13_569239c5e0fbbde0bf3b88cecad0fdee966feaf1.jpg)
Here is a quick update...After almost 3 days of MMO soaking, i checked with boroscope only to find there was no liquid on top of that cyl 3. ?? I put back everything & started. It started and ran fine without any misfire...really stumped. I ran on idle for about 40 mins hoping it to clear the piston n cylinders. I turned it off & restarted the misfire came back on cyl 3. I am gonna open again tomorrow to see the valve on cyl 3 & also check for the compression, if there is an improvement i would be blessed. Over all the engine ran a bit smoother than before i would say.
#55
Driver
Thread Starter
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Glad to see you making progress OP, here is a thread about replacing valve springs (2GR-FE) while engine in car (if valve is not stuck or damaged, and valve guide is not damaged):
https://www.toyotanation.com/threads...der-3.1761757/
https://www.toyotanation.com/threads...der-3.1761757/
"That means when timing is out of wreck, your valves will not kiss your pistons.
But when a spring breaks and the valve drops below its normal lowest position, your valve COULD STILL kiss the piston."
#56
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
In the link above some posts get it wrong about the 2GR-FE, it is an interference engine. If you remove the timing chain, do not rotate the crank, a piston will hit a valve.
#57
Driver
Thread Starter
![Arrow](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon2.gif)
Havent taken the engine out yet, here is a boroscope video that i made that shows the struck valve. Your thoughts appreciated. Sorry for the slow video at times as my daughter was turning the wrench & socket was coming off the crank pulley while i was capturing. At 4:11 you will see 1 valve is stationary, whereas at 3:00 you will see the other 2 valves function properly.
Last edited by offroadtrd; 06-21-24 at 09:28 PM. Reason: missed info
The following users liked this post:
Margate330 (06-22-24)
#58
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Yah, that valve is stuck, likely bent, that engine is coming out. If valve guide is not cracked you can likely get away with just replacing the valve.
I bet the spring is broken, because when that happens, the little "hat" that sits on top of the valve stem and rocker arm falls off, so the valve will not extend as much as the others, which is what your (nice btw) video is showing.
I bet the spring is broken, because when that happens, the little "hat" that sits on top of the valve stem and rocker arm falls off, so the valve will not extend as much as the others, which is what your (nice btw) video is showing.
Last edited by Mesquite77; 06-22-24 at 02:18 AM.
The following users liked this post:
offroadtrd (06-22-24)
#59
Lexus Test Driver
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Havent taken the engine out yet, here is a boroscope video that i made that shows the struck valve. Your thoughts appreciated. Sorry for the slow video at times as my daughter was turning the wrench & socket was coming off the crank pulley while i was capturing. At 4:11 you will see 1 valve is stationary, whereas at 3:00 you will see the other 2 valves function properly.
https://youtu.be/PzH0XB3RRGs
https://youtu.be/PzH0XB3RRGs
I bought a boroscope from harbor freight to play around and have a look on my engine for carbon build up but I wasn't able to get these angles.
I returned it because it was basically useless.
At the time harbor freight did have a couple different boroscopes for sale so maybe I bought the junky one.
#60
Driver
Thread Starter