2009 Lexus Rx with v8!
08-18-06, 08:27 AM
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2009 Lexus Rx with v8!
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From edmunds:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=116536
I guess more work for krpster and 700t.
From edmunds:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=116536
I guess more work for krpster and 700t.
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08-18-06, 09:20 AM
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Some buyers want that 3rd row seat for the kids, but Lexus has refused to do that because many buyers (like me) do not want such a big SUV (it's only 8" longer than my SC430, and 11" shorter than an Accord) because they do not have all the kids at home. Seating for 4 adults is all that I need. And since this is the best selling Lexus model, by far, (something over 40% of all Lexus cars sold are RX) they don't want to mess with something that works and sells so well.
So this "long wheelbase" version serves everybody well. You can get the stretch version and 3rd row of seats if you want (at some extra cost), but those who don't need the biger car can still get the standard version.
I can't imagine how much fun this car would be with the V-8 -- that's one of the things that makes the SC so much fun to drive. I find the 330 to have just about enough power, and I hear that the 350 is even better. A 430 or 460 V-8 would be way over the top.
Can't wait.
So this "long wheelbase" version serves everybody well. You can get the stretch version and 3rd row of seats if you want (at some extra cost), but those who don't need the biger car can still get the standard version.
I can't imagine how much fun this car would be with the V-8 -- that's one of the things that makes the SC so much fun to drive. I find the 330 to have just about enough power, and I hear that the 350 is even better. A 430 or 460 V-8 would be way over the top.
Can't wait.
08-18-06, 01:28 PM
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Sounds like they described the HPX/LF-X Concept to me. 
But you never know. Its a possibility that it could get a 3rd row, but I'm personally doubting it.
But you never know. Its a possibility that it could get a 3rd row, but I'm personally doubting it.
08-18-06, 01:28 PM
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That power and that V8 make me very happy...it is about time they added true performance to the equation.
Still will keep my RX300 and keep turning up the power.
Still will keep my RX300 and keep turning up the power.
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08-18-06, 02:58 PM
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08-18-06, 03:34 PM
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What I am getting at is that they could possibly be confusing there information with the information that we already know about the upcoming production model LF-X. Three row seating, V8 option, low to the ground. Those 3 features were key to the LF-X concept.
08-18-06, 03:42 PM
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In one of my copies of HyperRev...I think surprisingly the older issue from a while back, they had similar looking design.
One good thing that will also probably come out of this is better aftermarket support, just like some of the higher-powered SUV competitors.
It still drives me nuts that for all the RX300s on the road, not too much in the way of modification for performance...sigh
One good thing that will also probably come out of this is better aftermarket support, just like some of the higher-powered SUV competitors.
It still drives me nuts that for all the RX300s on the road, not too much in the way of modification for performance...sigh
08-18-06, 07:22 PM
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"But this is what Edmunds thinks it will look like. They havent seen a real picture either."
Oh, come on! These "spy photos" and concept articles are based on information given to the publications by the manufacturers. This has "reliable source" written all over it.
Oh, come on! These "spy photos" and concept articles are based on information given to the publications by the manufacturers. This has "reliable source" written all over it.
08-22-06, 04:44 AM
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Can't help but wonder about the real utility of that third row of seats. OK for kids, but only those somewhere between the ages where they need car seats and early teens when they actually grow legs. Access to these seats is actually fun for a seven to ten-year-old, but soon they will tire of being consigned to steerage class.
If it's a marketing move, it seems rather strange to cut into one of the advantages of the GX with this pygmy seat . . . unless . . . there might be something larger afoot. The GX and LX are currently nothing more than a series of luxury option packages on excellent Toyota products - nothing wrong with that, but as Lexus grows it can afford a bit more exclusivity. The GX/LX are basically "badge engineered" from the 4Runner and LandCruiser - rather old-school body-on-frame trucks. It's been a puzzle why the LX has not adopted the much more modern Sequoia platform – and the GX left with a toehold in a tiny niche market.
Pure speculation here, but what if the LX were developed from the Sequoia? You get a larger interior space, more modern platform, and a serious head-turner. Where would the GX find a market? Surely, having proven its market, the RX (being the largest seller) wouldn’t make the leap to a 7-passenger ride without some SERIOUS clamor from the dealers who see losing sales to competing brands as a problem. That problem – at least based on sales figures - doesn’t exist at this point. Lexus is selling every RX it can paint. So the GX finds itself bookended by the RX on one side and the LX on the other – without much room to develop an exclusive market in between. Might there be a niche for a GX as a larger RX, rather than a “smaller” LX - a unibody crossover - sort of an RX for families, an alternative to a mommy van based on a GS or LS, rather than the Camry/ES?
That would leave Lexus with a clearly differentiated product line: a “sporty” SUV – the RX (with V6, hybrid, or a possible V8 option and appropriate braking, handling features), a larger GX, now with more interior room for larger families, and the LX, the plus-size hauler with interior room and genuine brush-busting capability.
Hmmmmm . . . . Lexus, if you're listening, I want a commission on this . . . 
If it's a marketing move, it seems rather strange to cut into one of the advantages of the GX with this pygmy seat . . . unless . . . there might be something larger afoot. The GX and LX are currently nothing more than a series of luxury option packages on excellent Toyota products - nothing wrong with that, but as Lexus grows it can afford a bit more exclusivity. The GX/LX are basically "badge engineered" from the 4Runner and LandCruiser - rather old-school body-on-frame trucks. It's been a puzzle why the LX has not adopted the much more modern Sequoia platform – and the GX left with a toehold in a tiny niche market.
Pure speculation here, but what if the LX were developed from the Sequoia? You get a larger interior space, more modern platform, and a serious head-turner. Where would the GX find a market? Surely, having proven its market, the RX (being the largest seller) wouldn’t make the leap to a 7-passenger ride without some SERIOUS clamor from the dealers who see losing sales to competing brands as a problem. That problem – at least based on sales figures - doesn’t exist at this point. Lexus is selling every RX it can paint. So the GX finds itself bookended by the RX on one side and the LX on the other – without much room to develop an exclusive market in between. Might there be a niche for a GX as a larger RX, rather than a “smaller” LX - a unibody crossover - sort of an RX for families, an alternative to a mommy van based on a GS or LS, rather than the Camry/ES?
That would leave Lexus with a clearly differentiated product line: a “sporty” SUV – the RX (with V6, hybrid, or a possible V8 option and appropriate braking, handling features), a larger GX, now with more interior room for larger families, and the LX, the plus-size hauler with interior room and genuine brush-busting capability.
Hmmmmm . . . . Lexus, if you're listening, I want a commission on this . . .
08-22-06, 05:42 AM
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What happened to all the rumors about the JX470 coming out soon as a "badge-engineered" Sequoia? Since the LF-X hit the auto shows, every new Toyota or Lexus SUV will supposedly look like that!
Edmunds is usually good about future vehicles, but not gospel. They predicted a redesign of the Highlander for 2007 - didn't happen.
Edmunds is usually good about future vehicles, but not gospel. They predicted a redesign of the Highlander for 2007 - didn't happen.
08-22-06, 11:04 PM
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Can't help but wonder about the real utility of that third row of seats. OK for kids, but only those somewhere between the ages where they need car seats and early teens when they actually grow legs. Access to these seats is actually fun for a seven to ten-year-old, but soon they will tire of being consigned to steerage class.
If it's a marketing move, it seems rather strange to cut into one of the advantages of the GX with this pygmy seat . . . unless . . . there might be something larger afoot. The GX and LX are currently nothing more than a series of luxury option packages on excellent Toyota products - nothing wrong with that, but as Lexus grows it can afford a bit more exclusivity. The GX/LX are basically "badge engineered" from the 4Runner and LandCruiser - rather old-school body-on-frame trucks. It's been a puzzle why the LX has not adopted the much more modern Sequoia platform – and the GX left with a toehold in a tiny niche market.
Pure speculation here, but what if the LX were developed from the Sequoia? You get a larger interior space, more modern platform, and a serious head-turner. Where would the GX find a market? Surely, having proven its market, the RX (being the largest seller) wouldn’t make the leap to a 7-passenger ride without some SERIOUS clamor from the dealers who see losing sales to competing brands as a problem. That problem – at least based on sales figures - doesn’t exist at this point. Lexus is selling every RX it can paint. So the GX finds itself bookended by the RX on one side and the LX on the other – without much room to develop an exclusive market in between. Might there be a niche for a GX as a larger RX, rather than a “smaller” LX - a unibody crossover - sort of an RX for families, an alternative to a mommy van based on a GS or LS, rather than the Camry/ES?
That would leave Lexus with a clearly differentiated product line: a “sporty” SUV – the RX (with V6, hybrid, or a possible V8 option and appropriate braking, handling features), a larger GX, now with more interior room for larger families, and the LX, the plus-size hauler with interior room and genuine brush-busting capability. Hmmmmm . . . . Lexus, if you're listening, I want a commission on this . . .
If it's a marketing move, it seems rather strange to cut into one of the advantages of the GX with this pygmy seat . . . unless . . . there might be something larger afoot. The GX and LX are currently nothing more than a series of luxury option packages on excellent Toyota products - nothing wrong with that, but as Lexus grows it can afford a bit more exclusivity. The GX/LX are basically "badge engineered" from the 4Runner and LandCruiser - rather old-school body-on-frame trucks. It's been a puzzle why the LX has not adopted the much more modern Sequoia platform – and the GX left with a toehold in a tiny niche market.
Pure speculation here, but what if the LX were developed from the Sequoia? You get a larger interior space, more modern platform, and a serious head-turner. Where would the GX find a market? Surely, having proven its market, the RX (being the largest seller) wouldn’t make the leap to a 7-passenger ride without some SERIOUS clamor from the dealers who see losing sales to competing brands as a problem. That problem – at least based on sales figures - doesn’t exist at this point. Lexus is selling every RX it can paint. So the GX finds itself bookended by the RX on one side and the LX on the other – without much room to develop an exclusive market in between. Might there be a niche for a GX as a larger RX, rather than a “smaller” LX - a unibody crossover - sort of an RX for families, an alternative to a mommy van based on a GS or LS, rather than the Camry/ES?
That would leave Lexus with a clearly differentiated product line: a “sporty” SUV – the RX (with V6, hybrid, or a possible V8 option and appropriate braking, handling features), a larger GX, now with more interior room for larger families, and the LX, the plus-size hauler with interior room and genuine brush-busting capability.
Hmmmmm . . . . Lexus, if you're listening, I want a commission on this . . . 2. Next LX will be Sequia based and be huge ala Escalade and QX56.
3. Which means next GX will grow a lil in size.
I do hope the RX DOES NOT grow, I think the size is great.
08-23-06, 06:27 AM
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As I read the above gossip, the choice of having the RX grow will be left up to the buyer. The plan is to offer the regular old standard RX and also offer a stretched version with the 3rd row seat, for those who want that. I have no problem with that. I would not want the longer version, but there is some demand for it.
I have no interest in the "h" model either, but there is some demand for that, and they sell. (I have 2 friends/neighbors who have the 330h.
I note that Lexus has announced that the new LX will also come in the regular size as well as an optional "L" or stretched version with more legroom (and reclining seats) in the rear passenger compartment. This is not ususual; BMW (in the 7 series), MB, and Jag, at one point, all offered "L" (long) versions of their top of the line cars with extra room in the back seat.
I guess it's easier to do than you think.
I have no interest in the "h" model either, but there is some demand for that, and they sell. (I have 2 friends/neighbors who have the 330h.
I note that Lexus has announced that the new LX will also come in the regular size as well as an optional "L" or stretched version with more legroom (and reclining seats) in the rear passenger compartment. This is not ususual; BMW (in the 7 series), MB, and Jag, at one point, all offered "L" (long) versions of their top of the line cars with extra room in the back seat.
I guess it's easier to do than you think.